So...she should be less sexy than every other character? To what end? Can she be just as sexy? Is there a ratio it’s okay to observe, or is it just “be not sexy.” Do you have, like stone tablets with these commandments, or do you just wing it when something doesn’t suit your particular aesthetic?

Logical and well-reasoned. Was that before or after you started making claims that are “facts” that you couldn’t back up. Sorry, it was so back and forth I got confused with what you believe is true and what actually is. I mean, look at all that prominent promotional material with Cid ! It’s all over the place! And…

So...yeah...objection is to not only what she’s wearing, but how she’s doing it. Not disproving my point about Kotaku’s loving adherence to its Puritanical mores. We get it, pretty women that reveal skin are the devil and should be banished because they offend your chaste senses.

*sigh* Small words:
Opinion - subjective
Fact - objective

The shape of the earth can be empirically shown. That means it’s a fact. A fact is something true.

Objectification is not a fact.

Our OPINIONS are subjective. That’s why I made the statement you cannot empirically prove objectification, unlike whether the earth is round. Does that really not make sense to you?

And yes, it is fair for Jason to criticize her design. It is equally fair for me to criticize that criticism. Yay.

Her attire doesn’t preclude her work. I see her outfit as a play on that particular trope of the hot mechanic. See, the point of that was to see that the vast swath of those results were...men. Why do I have to point out the dots and connect them for you?

Oh, right...the infamous male gaze! Or, as I like to call it,…

I said interesting. You failed.

Er...okay, so you say someone is objectifying Cid. I say, no they aren’t. And...that’s subjectivity. You can’t empirically prove objectification. It isn’t a fact. Ta-da. Now, if you wanted to say she was sexualized, then oh, certainly. But, even that is not inherently bad (well, here it is).

If I look the only reason…

They are happy, they are healthy, they are intelligent. Pity them.

You realize...Cidney’s not either, right? Like, she’s not real. You get that, right?

Actually, it’s a fairly good read of Kotaku as a whole. Maybe it’s the overlap with Jezebel that gets you. And yes, I got what Jason’s point was...and the exact same point was made about Gladio, which was ignored in his moralistic ranting. If there is an issue with Cindy, then there should be an issue with Gladio…

Ah, right, because video game characters are very often exactly like the people you’d me on the OH WAIT THEY AREN’T.

Jade isn’t stacked. Sorry. She ain’t. And if you say she wears a t shirt to accentuate them, then I say her over shirt hides them. Seriously. It’s the same camisole/overshirt combo that’s like...20 years…

My initial approach was mocking of the pervasive pearl-clutching, fainting couch mentality that seeps into every article like this. It was hardly uncivil, though. I did no more to him than you did to me, that being calling someone out. So, if I’m in the wrong, so are you.

Why would I be upset? See above. And, for the…

Did I at any point say that Gladio wasn’t sexy? And the “rule of cool” does not exclude sexiness, all it means is that is exlcuding practicality for something that is (usually) visually appealing. So, instead of having Cid being an ugly redneck in a beer, oil, and sweat stained overall, they opted her current look.…

Oh, no, not only are you wrong, but you’re not engaging further? How awful. Please, no. The. Humanity. Ah.

Cindy being portrayed as a main female character? Since when? She’s been shown, yes, because she’s been in the demos. Also, I don’t know that four counts a numerous for main characters...because that is one more than FFX-2 (SEXISM). And, I don’t feel that Cindy is objectified...and since objectification is subjective,…

Noted.

The basic level of respect is: congratulations, you’ve made it this far without biting off your own tongue. What you are referring to, I think, is civility. Those who have approached me civilly have gotten it. Mind you, you approached me.

Oh, you are going with the unproven, “Monkey see, monkey do” idea. It’s not been…

Yes, the objectification of men has traditionally been more utilitarian, hasn’t it?

I have two daughters, as well. They like princesses and Monster High and Senran Kagura. What does that tell you?

I never said anything about breasts...you did. We were talking about clothes and functionality. When we get back to that,…

Ah, so she has to be cool, too, because he is? Makes sense?