jeromeanderson
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jeromeanderson

I love Gambit, but being complicit in the murder of innocents is pretty bad. He lead the Marauders. Same with Silver Surfer, and it's arguable he's even less guilty because Galactus is a natural force of balance. I'm not condemning him, or anyone on this list, merely stating that...you can't deny their parts in the

Eh, you have your opinions, I have mine. I wouldn't consider it a few bad apples when it's been done over and over again, throughout history. Even SHIELD has an army of Sentinels now, so...

Still a mass murderer, and Psylocke is an assassin. She is a "reformed" killer. And unwitting or not, he still participated, he just left afterwards.

Guy characters a lot of time are awful. They are very often just groups of cliches strung together, because video games, as I said, aren't very often seen as a medium that requires serious writing effort.

Well, let's see...Gambit has been Death, as in the Horseman, and also participated in the Morlock Massacre when he was a Maurader, so there's that.

Psylocke has also been Death, and she's an assassin.

Dark Phoenix after being corrupted/controlled by Mastermind. But yes.

I mentioned it after the fact. The list was far from comprehensive.

As I stated to someone else, she committed very literal genocide, in that she removed the mutant gene from people against their will...she removed the thing that made them mutants, very nearly all of them. It is arguably semantics, but it would be like turning 99% of humans into chimps. Sure, they are alive, but

I'm taking the context around the events of House of M. Anything after is whatever, because...you know...comics.

Actually, when she murdered millions, she had just been corrupted by Mastermind, and she was the aspect of the Dark Phoenix, which was more...id than ego? I think that's the way it goes. Regardless, Dark Pheonix was, I feel, more Jean with her proverbial hair down, given waaaay too much power and no moral compass.

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Considering the Hulk has been War, I'm pretty sure he has, and then there was Planet Hulk, so...yeah.

The only thing affecting her at the time was grief. If they had not been attacked at that time, the event never would have happened.

The title of the article, maybe? Just...for context, ya know? And the first two paragraph? Also, there was the subtext of a well-known (beloved) villain being in a game called Marvel Heroes? I mean, your list is fine, and congrats for coming up with it, it just...isn't particularly germane to this discussion, and

When did BP turn into the killer of millions? Also, is this post his becoming King of the Dead after Shuri succeeded him? Note: I'm not super caught up on BP, because the height of BP as a character for me was Priest's early 2K run.

Also, wasn't aware of Strange being in the habit of killing people, as I thought most

Whether they saw it as a blessing or a curse is really sort of irrelevant to the point. They were irrevocably changed, their mutantness killed off by the will of another. Not an accident of birth or a breeding program, the will of one person, and that's the rub.

Well, that's the thing...The Phoenix itself does very little. It's actually sort of impartial, but it operates on such a grand scale that things like...a few million lives are mere trifles to it, and that sort of cosmic perspective affects the wielder. It is a corrupting influence because it is power, but it is,

I think that's a point of semantics, and please, hear me out. The mutants she de-powered, not just the ones who died because their powers suddenly stopped working, but all of them...lost something that was intrinsic to their nature, what made them...mutants. Their bodies were alive, but the fundamental spark that

Well, right, but we're only talking about playable characters, only Hulk and Loki of your list are playable, and Loki, being a god, sorta gets a pass in my book, because, well...there's literally Death who has killed more than all of them combined...

Ohkay, sure, but that's Jean Gray two steps removed. First, it was her under the influence of the Phoenix Force and then that having been corrupted by Mastermind. How much do you want to lay at the feet of all parties involved? I put my list the way I did because of people who willingly do these things of their own

Yeah, that's why I don't really count her as the capstone. The Phoenix Force has destroyed multiple planets just getting to Jean. Jean only really did something similar when she was Dark Phoenix, and she ate a star and that was arguably Mastermind's fault. *shrug* Six of one, half a dozen of the other, really. I