That's definitely true, but you gotta remember 24 Hour Revenge really came out towards the tail end of their run. They were much less prolific than J Church and toured a lot less for one thing. There was a time when you could walk into any mainstream record store and probably find a J Church record or two. They…

Blake Schwarzenbach lived across the hallway from Lance and sang back-ups on this album, so there was a brief time when J Church and Jawbreaker on the same level and almost literally occupying the same space.

I think that would be Fat Mike.