The chuck holes that run this site decided crack pipe was racist because apparently only black people do crack. That assumption is racist.

Drive one, you will likely change your mind. This is not a fun car to drive.

This is a nightmare car to drive. The clutches on these things are so heavy and first gear is so low that getting to speed is a significant chore. If I was going to drop $30K on a Z4 it would not be the M version. The non-M is a much more refined car.

Warning: don’t google trypophobia

AKA my neighbor

That is one hideous POS.

If the entire US was carbon neutral, it would have zero effect on climate change. Until China, India and the likes get their shit together, nothing is going to change. Plus, cars are one of the smallest contributors. This is nothing but a feel good movement.

You are likely right but guilty or otherwise, I would do the exact same thing.

Society would be far better served to be told to lose weight. Obesity is the number 1 pre-existing condition and accounts for 80% covid related hospitalizations.

I sure hope this is true. I am so tired of all the electric start up that turned out to be bullshit.

I daily a sports car because I live in the mountains and it’s a hoot on the windy roads. I also never plan to track it.

Until it’s on the streets, its just vaporware.

I had to scroll way to far before I got to this comment.

A MT is a PITA if you live in an area that is hilly and have a bad commute.

This isn’t “how do you like it”, “what do you think of it”, “what would you pay for it”... This is about - is it worth what they are asking? This is a good price for this vehicle today. That’s it. 

Jason, why do I get the feeling you do not like the color options?

Does VW even make a $23,000 car today?

Have you driven in a foreign country? Good god this places is heaven compared to the 7 countries I have driven in.

Dead on. How many start up car companies have failed in just the last 10 years alone? Those numbers aren’t going to go down soon either. Building prototypes and attracting investors is one thing. Manufacturing vehicles is a colossal task.