My experience has not been this. I have taken very good care of a number of GMC and Ford trucks. And yes the last one of each has been very deep into the insolent category despite very good care. My Toyotas have been completely abusable with rarely a hiccup. I’ve done everything from water over the hood(and into the…

Info I’d love to know:

You drive a LOT of miles. For people who drive 3500+ miles a month like you (assuming 35mpg gas car comparison), the EV saves a lot of fuel cost. But I think you’re in a pretty small minority of drivers who put that many miles on per month.

A western theme truck having the name of the biggest cattle ranch in the USA seems pretty darn fitting to me. 

I have no idea of the top off my head. And I know they both exist. Add spark to that list too. I could look it up, but off the top of my head I don't remember if the spark is an EV or not. 

Is there such a thing as a Wrangler Unlimited with limited trim. Ie “unlimited limited”.

No additional math needed. Occupants of SUVs die at lower rates. The data is already adjusted for in-service volume. 

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Toyota’s softex is really good. Mine has held up to everything I’ve thrown at it. Far better durability than leather. Easy to clean. Relatively inexpensive. I was skeptical at first. But I’m sold. I’ll take it over leather. Cloth is a non-starter without a cover for me with kids and dogs in a SUV that spends a lot of…

Yes. That is exactly what the data shows. SUVs ARE safer in the real world. If safer means less occupant deaths in the real world. If safer to you means lab testing that doesn’t simulate the real world, I guess buy your “safer” car. Don’t be surprised that lab tests don’t replicate the complex system that is the real…

One of us is wrong. Hint: it's you.

The data is broken down by make model and model year. It’s on the iihs website.

As much as your want to be right - your wrong. The data is valid. Comparing like models such as Camry vs Highlander and similar the SUVs are still safer. That’s reality whether you like it or not.

People in cars will continue to die at higher rates than SUVs along side SUV drivers on the highways. That’s reality. The difference is small enough that they’ll coexist.

If we're deciding that one category of vehicle is incompatible for safety reasons, shouldn't we remove the vehicle that's declining in use in favor of the one that's more common? I'm sure the horse riders weren't happy to be removed from the highways. The same might be the case for cars. If it's true that the two are…

I think we need to revisit physics 101 here.

That’s a lot of words to defend being wrong. Higher polar moment = higher resistance to roll.

Are you favoring lab tests attempting to test the real world or do you favor real world results as the basis? That’s really the core question. Competing safety sources of information that disagree. I’ll put my family in the one that performs in the real world so long as they’re going to go use in the real world. Lab…

If the polar moment was lower - more mass would be centered at the axis point and rollovers would be more common. Higher polar moment reduces rollover risk. Polar moment differences between cars and SUVs have some, but very little influence on rollover risk and the difference benefits SUVs not hurts them.

Imagine two options: