Get a brain. We know full well their taxes are what pays for it. It’s still a better system.

Yes... it’s when you notice that the Finn who paid 30 Euros ALSO pays less in tax that you should really be asking questions. The healthcare system in the US is a greater tax burden per capita than in Finland, and it’s the Finns who get to pay only 30 Euros. That’s how bad the US system really is.

Free education and free health care should be mandatory the world over, not only here. Healthy educated people contributing back into sociey? Everybody wins.

I can tell you right now that based on how much I pay and how much my job pays for my health care insurance for my family, it would cost way less if we had a universal system in the US that was supported by taxes.

How is it misleading? These are regular people who are making the comments, not some economist or health care expert explaining it.

I thought of a response to the shmuck bitching about our taxes all going up just now. I will let them take all the money I’m paying in health ins as taxes right now, over 7k a year, if we get healthcare where everything is a simple $60 fee and the drugs are all reasonably priced. I mean, I’m paying that now so that I…

That would be nice.

But...I have insurance.

I would totally pay slightly higher taxes to not have to worry that getting sick could completely bankrupt me for life. The free education would also be a nice side benefit.

And getting the rich to, you know Pay Their Fucking Share, would go a long way toward all that shit.

Checks out. You must be from Europe. That’s a sane and entirely reasonable attitude.

Not only is it not “far higher,” but since their taxes cover stuff like all their healthcare and education, they pay far, far less for those things in the long run.

Taxes are definitely higher here in Scandinavia, but that is often offset by having higher salaries before tax. Have a look at this table that gives you the gross and net average salaries of various European countries and compare it to USA and Canada listed in the table below. For instance, I’m from Denmark, where…

That’ll be $3,200
-U.S. Healthcare Provider

Laughs in reduced credit rating due to healthcare costs.

Their taxes are not far higher than ours. Aggregate all taxes, fed, state, local, add usage fees, licenses, fuel taxes, etc. You’ll be amazed at how close we actually are. But, we have $22T in debt to service, and military spending that exceeds the next 11 nations combined. So there’s that.

Yes, yes feed all of this directly INTO MA VEINS...

Ouch our neighbours in Finland have it really bad indeed. And yes, health care is equally bad here in Norway. In 7 weeks my first son will be born, and my wife will enjoy a free hospital stay as well as 34 weeks paid leave after birth. And I, as a man, get 15 weeks paid leave to be a father in the beginning. A big…

Kiitos, minun kansani! (I hope that’s right, I used Google Translate)

Oof, American healthcare v’s healthcare in Europe? Yeah, talk about a losing battle. In the majority of countries in the EU knowing that you can get healthcare without having to go into bankruptcy is kind of something people like. Honestly I find American healthcare baffling, and cruel. I’m alive because of the NHS…