This isn't the kind of discussion I had in mind

That about sums it up. Technically, it has a lot of great elements in it that should add up to something exceptional. But the number of "wow" moments are pretty low.

I'm glad it wasn't dropped. Haven't seen the finale yet, but I could easily see season three being the last season, given how the various plots have been developing.

Except when it doesn't, as dictated by the Plot Contrivance Drive

When rewatching for the first time (I saw it in a disjointed fashion as a kid, so I couldn't follow any of the plots really), I was hoping that it would have started a longer narrative arc. But why have a plot that explores a potentially rich sci-fi mythos that leads us to fundamentally rethink the nature of conflict…

And according to the first* Alien vs. Predator, "This thing explodes"

Maybe it was the "load" part of the sentence that threw him off.

By the time we get to around the 50th installment, we'll be down to a sleek running time of approximately 90 minutes

Wouldn't that technically be the 32nd movie?

…I guess I should refrain from my Raiders fanaticism in this thread

Like I said, though, the second episode really didn't have that vibe. Felt much more comfortable overall

So Jonah is a literal or a metaphorical puppet?

I get the feeling it'll be just a brief, one sketch cameo, sort of like when Frank and Joel came back in the Soultaker episode. I sincerely doubt they'll be recurring in any way. Although maybe one sketch is one too many for you?

This might be a strange stance, but I always felt that the host sketches in Time of the Apes were actually better than the riffs in the movie

I'm really concerned about the Netflix numbers as well. I watched the second episode today to boost my confidence in the show a little (I'm not as into the first episode as a bunch of others here). The second one did a thorough enough job of convincing me they're on the right track that I'll just wait for Netflix and…

Yeah, much as I'm still adjusting to a much faster pace with the riffing, you can tell they've got a pretty easy-going camaraderie with each other (even though they're still figuring out how to make the show their own a bit)

It stinks.

I'll be a slight voice of dissent to say the first episode is very rough around the edges. The pacing of the riffs takes a while to get used to, the transition bits are kinda awkward, they have a gag with Gypsy that feels really forced, and there were way too many jokes that either felt like (a) trying really hard to…

Update: Watching the second episode now. It's at least a hundred times better. They seem less concerned with referencing what the show has been and more interested in setting their own style/rhythm. Not a fan of Gypsy's cameos (they just feel intrusive) and they still like making too many rapid fire jokes which I'm…

No, those are all fair assessments. I mean, I expected a rough start. The episodes introducing new cast in the first run were always rough, Joel warned everyone frequently that it was going to be a little off, they were trying out some new ideas and approaches, and it was a giant monster movie (which 90% of the time…