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I sure hope not, I'm not really up for surprise guests in the bedroom.

We're in a media comments section, not in a philosophy class. Dial back your academic rhetoric before you get it caught in your zipper.

So sex isn't sacred, pregnancy is sacred. Glad we're on the same page here.

What? No? Are you trying to hint at gay sex here? And sex with birth control? Because… No? That's definitely not the only kind of sex that's treated as sinful and I'm sorry but I do NOT have the time to explain that to you if you don't already know it.

Oh there we go. You finally said the thing. I was waiting, I knew it was lurking behind your "environment that makes it easy to be virtuous" and "but I don't know what that might be…"

So it is the point. Therefore… since conservatives are all about the status quo, and the status quo (as we've just established) is built on classical liberalism, anything that conservatives believe can be traced back to classical liberalism and no conservative viewpoint can be questioned because you'll just point to a

How something is treated in practice is the relevant part here, not how it's officially categorized. If Catholics actually believed sex was sacred they wouldn't shame it and build their sins around it.

Yep. Just like I might eat a whole can of pringles in one sitting, even though it's easy not to. Because they don't see a REASON not to.

Our entire SOCIETY, both liberal and conservative, is a creature of classical liberalism. That's not the point. You're using classic liberals to refute a point about a philosophy currently championed by modern conservatives.

And neither of your sentences has content. Are we doing that self-descriptive essay thing now?

No, you're using abstract concepts to declare that nobody can describe a social structure that caters to reality.

That's because you're asking people to create a social structure that caters to abstract concepts.

Classical liberalism and modern liberalism are literally completely separate entities. Classical liberalism has more in common with modern libertarianism than with modern left-wing politics. This isn't liberals or conservatives "changing opinions" it's labels shifting.

According to Mike Pence, yes.

Conservatives never thought sex was "sacred," just dirty and shameful. Shockingly, you can divest it of that status without condoning rape. And I'm pretty sure "satisfaction of appetite is inherently good" isn't something any mainstream political standard has promoted.