Or just don’t understand those definition / are being obtuse.

But hey, like I said, whatever you need to make yourself feel better.

I’m not relying solely on Wikipedia. (It’s also not a bad source most of the time.) 3 of the 4 definitions you posted support what I’m saying. I’m not bluffing at all, that’s a fact that is apparent to anyone who can properly speak English.

Not sure what you mean by prior views, I’m not a lawyer and I don’t have…

Those are not mutually exclusive things.

You declaring something doesn’t make it true. Claiming I am bullshitting doesn’t change the fact that the definitions support my position.

Claiming that I’m wrong doesn’t change them either. They still support what I say, despite your ability to grasp it.

Yes you have and I’ve pointed out that you are incorrect and don’t have a proper grasp of the language. I did not inject my own meaning, the meaning is clear, despite your ability to grasp it.  

I did that for you already, go back and read what I already wrote.

Yes, I did refer to those dictionary definitions and the definition I provided which support my position. 4 of the 5 clearly show that no products are involved. Sorry you don’t have that great a grasp on language.

Look, I think this is a shitty company that prey on desperate people by making them buy way to much inventory, not giving them any say in that inventory, and not letting them return defective items. But technically it doesn’t seem like a pyramid scheme.

I’ve seen some stuff about other MLM’s where you actually pay…

It doesn’t seem like they were paying money for “the chance to receive compensation for introducing one or more additional persons into participation in the scheme or for the chance to receive compensation when a person introduced by the participant introduces a new participant.” though. It sounds like they were…

The big difference between a MLM and a pyramid scheme is selling a product.

And I don’t see anywhere where it’s being claimed that selling products was not the point with this particular company.

The reason they have two different names is because they are different. One sells a product and the other does not. That’s just a fact. And it’s not just a distinction in marketing, it’s a real, concrete, distinction in fact.

I have not fallen for any PR, I just have the ability to accept facts and reality. And no,…

They are actually selling products. The fact that many of the people who buy them with the intent to sell are not successful at that, doesn’t mean they are not selling products. As far as I can see LuLaRoe’s money is coming from the sale of clothes to people who intend to sell them to others.

Just because there is some overlap doesn’t mean they are the same thing. You can deny the facts all you want, they are different things with key differences. And the biggest one is the one sells a product and the other does not. That’s why they are called different things.

“ in which participants pay to join and…

The definitions make it clear that no products are involved. (and the one I posted SPECIFICALLY said it was investing RATHER THAN offering a product.) That’s why they say things like “investment” because an actual pyramid scheme is about investing money and getting nothing in return.

Again these are two different…

It’s a free country so I guess you can make up personal definitions for words if you want.

You’ll notice that only one of those mentions a product, and that one is incorrect. The other three agree with what I am saying. So congratulations for demonstrating I’m right. Again, the difference between MLM and a pyramid scheme is one sells a product and the other does not.

“A pyramid scheme (commonly known as pyra…

So? The fact is, there is still an actual product for sale. The people at the top are actually selling it to the people who then sell the actual product. That makes it NOT a pyramid scheme, which is, once again, an investment scheme where you give money for nothing and then turn around and ask other people for money…

No, it’ not. There are distinct key differences between MLM and an actual pyramid scheme, that’s why they are two different things with different terms. They are actually different.

For example, one involves selling an actual product and the other does not.

Most people’s understanding is incorrect, that’s my point.