You just tell yourself whatever you need to to cover the fact that you are both wrong about the effectiveness of withholding these drugs, and too scared to answer a simple question and actually carry on the conversation.
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3 people since this conversation. This plan of not supplying drugs is obviously doing nothing but increasing the suffering of those who are going to die anyways.
But people here can’t have that because they refuse to accept anything less than perfection. They want those that are executed to suffer in order to persuade people to demand an end to capital punishment.
All they have to do is make it an after school program and they’ll be fine. It’s having it during the school day with no alternatives that is their biggest problem.
“but in high enough doses there are other ways to stop breathing.”
“Not having an antidote is actually why it’s more serious; both this and opiods present potentially fatal CNS depression on overdoses,”
Is that true for weed? Because I could swear I read that they work on your brain very differently and pot doesn’t do this to you like opiods do.
“the three pieces of information that prove your point have constantly been rebuked over the last 7 years”
That is not at all true.
“refusal to accept scientific methods,”
Oh, you mean like all the studies you admit are flawed on both sides because of their subjective nature? None of those studies PROVE it never causes…
“There is no proof of harm. Period.”
You are super dismissive of the idea and have been from the start. You keep pushing that there are studies that say it’s NOT doing anything, not just that it can’t be proved either way.
And when it comes to CUTTING UP SOMEONE’S GENITALS, without consent, the burden is on you to show there is NOT harm. Because that’s…
Your huge paragraphs about irritation and shit are nonsense. Using lots of words doesn’t make what you say make any sense.
I don’t know why you need a five page paper on irritation. You know what it means and if you don’t, just check the dictionary.
“To be frank all those studies have problems because they are asking people. “
Right, and so are the ones you say show there is no difference. And the fact that you think a study focused on adult circumcision is good for proving anything about infant circumcision is a big problem. Desensitization is a long term…
Hey, I’m ready whenever you answer the question. I’m not the coward or the one running away. You are running from my question.
I see you’ve chosen the dismiss option. Let me know if you are ever ready to confront reality and stop being dishonest.
Choose between any of them. The point is you know some are more humane than others. I don’t feel the need to dismiss the whole thread, I think I’m doing quite well and I am not embarrassed in any way to advocate for less suffering.
Going to repeat myself because you are ignoring it:
“If you had to choose, what’s your choice? And no cop out about how you should not have to choose. Because you know damn well that certain drugs and methods are better than others.”
“How does a drug company contribute to a decision to carry out an execution?”
They don’t and I never said they do. Their decision leads to the unavailability of more humane drugs, and leads to more suffering during those executions.
“Do you not understand the difference between a person already suffering and choosing…
His final words? “It was easy, folks. It was easy.”
“What decision has to be made for an execution to be carried out?”
A series of them. And what drugs are available is going to have an effect on the method chosen. You are never going to escape the fact that the drug companies choices have the result of more suffering. They have the power to reduce suffering and they…
Now you are just being the contrarian.
I’ll let the fact that people fight to have these drugs to kill themselves with speak for itself.
If you had to choose, what’s your choice? And no cop out about how you should not have to choose.
Because you know damn well that certain drugs and methods are better than others.