Actually, fortheloveofbeets’ comment introduced three specific, new points, that were on topic, informative and novel to many people. Did you forget we could see that?

Sure dude. You totally can’t understand Ira Glass. A popular radio personality that millions of people understand without problems.

TireFire is pulling the typical gaslighting bullshit that men always pull when they police other people’s voices: “Was it that? Or was it like that? I just can’t understand what you’re saying because I haven’t intuited that like functions as an intensifier in some contexts.”

Are you an idiot? My post was about the fact that you can’t end abortion ever because some people simply want to get abortions.

No. The opposite. You save the six year old. By, “also the six year old” I mean, save the six year old. (It’s a perverse thought experiment that doesn’t really have anything to do with abortion, but there’s a clear morally right choice here.)

Well, it’s not. So... fuck off? (Also, the six year old. Are you a sociopath?)

“They think that if you have a society in which wealth is more equally distributed, where there is universal healthcare, better education, increased minimum wage etc. people won’t make these decisions. ”

You are doing exactly what they hope. You are saying “I don’t know” whether they would prevent every abortion, but agreeing not to “speculate.” Their constituents shouldn’t be in this position.

It’s not a coherent position in a world where many abortions are purely elective. If their goal were to “reduce” abortion, then it would be. But they haven’t stated that that’s their goal. Instead, they call themselves “pro-life” and state that “life begins at conception.” This implies that they actually want to…

“You can hold the unscientific and unsubstantiated belief that human life starts at conception but keep that your business.”

But they’re not being honest because they won’t address whether they think, legally, a woman with the means to raise a child should be allowed to terminate her pregnancy. We literally do not know what they want to do. You can’t say, “We’re going to end abortion by eliminating the conditions under which women, who…

“The unspoken counterargument would discuss women who don’t seek abortions for financial reasons, but for reasons more emotionally difficult, and unsolvable by after-school care.”