Also even if you look at it logically it’s a tragedy but it’s not an argument that makes sense: we don’t ban things with the assumption that no-one will do them once they’re banned. Burglary is illegal and and it still happens.

I think these stats are important for people who care about safe access to abortion but…

Exactly. They’ve had years of living with some of the highest STD and teen pregnancy rates in the country, and it doesn’t change their opinion on sex education. Why would the casualties from DIY abortions change their mind either?

A Separation was the scariest movie I’ve seen in a long time because it hits so frighteningly close to home.

Their “moral abortions.”

That is simultaneously one of the truest and saddest statements. They do not care if women die trying to self-abort. In fact, they’d probably smile with grim pleasure that another “sinner” got her just desserts.

My Oma had a miscarriage in Montreal in the mid 1950s and the doctors wouldn’t treat her till my Opa turned up (he was out drinking with his brother) and apparently she almost bled to death.

That’s the way the “authorities” treated it before it was legal here in Canada. My mom almost bled to death from an illegal abortion in the ‘50s and the police were on her like white on rice while she was in the hospital. They threatened her with jail if she didn’t give up the name of her abortion provider! But she…

I didn’t post it the 1st time around, but my friend Joyce Arthur wrote that. She is an amazing champion for choice here in Canada!

No need to bet ... Quite a few years back a Jezzie shared this in the comments and I don’t remember who, but I try to return the favor and share it widely, an article from 2000 called “The only moral abortion is my abortion”. http://www.prochoiceactionnetwork-canada.org/articles/anti-…

Not to mention the fact that they don’t even CARE if women die performing these abortions on themselves. Remember the nutter in Colorado Springs? The twitter response by the so-called “pro-lifers”: “If a woman dies trying to procure an abortion than she deserved it.”

Plus I would bet you anything that the surprise-knocked-up daughters of the wealthy and powerful will still be able to be quietly whisked away to have their safe clean abortions.

Dammit I wish you weren’t right.

Exactly. That’s a feature of their plan, not a bug.

Somehow this whole thread is full of pity for the dog, with none to spare for the poor assistant, who probably just wants a whole KIND bar to herself once in a fucking while.

Wow and I thought it was bad that my toddler takes my phone and spends all of my gold fish in Neko Atsume and fills up my camera roll with awkward selfies and pictures of her stuffed animals.

Yes because college scholarships are plentiful and only idiots don’t get full rides anymore. I saved gas money by riding my dragon to school on tuesdays and thursdays and having my friend’s fairy pick me up on fridays.

I graduated in the midst of the recession too. After a few months of being an under-paid, over-worked nanny I put on my growed-up pants to find a “real” job. The only company willing to hire me was Liberty Income Tax.

Brilliant, but he probably has different idea about back alleys

In theory, sure. Unfortunately, these charming gentlemen tend to throw huge tantrums whenever anyone suggests that their misogyny should inconvenience them instead of every woman they come into contact with, and the airline appears to think that discriminating against women to accommodate them is a reasonable solution…