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Margot seems like a better fit for playing Nicole Bobek. But Nicole is not nearly as infamous as Tonya.

Yes, exactly. And he has deep and genuine affection and empathy for his characters.

Oksana Baiul won the gold medal and she wasn’t styled any better than Tonya was....

I think it is important that people are reminded that Nancy was also from a blue collar background. And as I’m sure you already know this, but a the time many skaters were not from wealthy families. Tonya wasn’t alone in getting picked on for her roots. Pairs team Urbanski and Marvel were mocked and given the nickname

I think it’s worth noting that John Waters sees poor white people as his people, which is why he can portray them in ways that are both truthful and kind. No one who ever for a second looked down on a population and judged them could ever manage to do that.

And let’s not forget that they were both competing against a 16 year old orphan whose home was based on her ability to skate and competing against a woman consistently knocked on points because she could do a backflip. Not to mention, one half of the US ice dancing couple was skating two weeks after her brother

She whined when she didn’t place first. Like, out loud, on the podium.

A welder who sometimes worked 3 jobs. She might have been a hockey player like her brothers if growing up today (that’s why the Campbell Soup ad was so good). Her hot mic comments on the Disney float was closer to her roots. She had good handlers who crafted a good image for its time but, a couple of decades later,

I always felt bad for Tonya, though she did make some of her own “bad luck”. One of the (lesser) unfortunate outcomes of the whole Tonya/Nancy thing was that it sort of anointed Nancy as this sweet, smiling Ice Princess. She was not sweet. Not even one little bit.

Agreed on every point. It was so easy to just assume Kerrigan was some Scarsdale dentist’s daughter or something, and Harding was so obviously trailer park. Harding was, IMHO as a former competitive skater, the better skater.

LOL. That would be funny if the whole thing wasn’t so tragic.

IMO, North Korea isn’t dumb enough to use nuclear weapons unless we try to invade them. Kim Jong Un isn’t as crazy as he seems - he knows exactly what he’s doing and why he’s doing it. He’s trying to hold onto power, and he thinks that making himself a threat is how he holds onto power.

We’ve been wartime spending for 16 years.

True story: in 9th grade French class, we had to give presentations and write a report on Francophone countries. I got assigned Switzerland.

Stupid Kinja and editing.

I don’t think you sound esoteric. But I think you sound a little naive. The needle may shift a little in our favor, but a “fundamental shift on a societal level” we are very, very far from. These few men may loose some money in the coming months/years, but the rest of them will hold on to power with white knuckles.

Ok I’ll bite. Illuminate me please.

I’ll take the elderly black Catholic feminist actress American divorcée over Nazi sympathizer American divorcée Wallis Simpson! 

Yeah, no. We’re not gonna judge victims and put the burden on women to end serial abuses perpetrated by men. You know who shoulda stepped up? All the 🖕🏻🖕🏻s who knew what was going on (from DAs to private lawyers to co-execs and business associates) and had the power to stop it but failed to do a damn thing