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A rich fashion model, calling out others for their “privilege”?

How about NO?

This idea that all White people benefit from racism is totally wrong. The White upper classes benefit by dividing the working class and the poor along racial lines - making the White poor and White workers think that the White upper classes

You’re not a traitor, but you don’t seem to realize that all races have enslaved others. It’s not to let whites off the hook — to acknowledge the facts of history condemns us pretty well. But the fact is that no race is inherently better or worse than any other. Humanity as a whole needs to move past tribalism. That

Frankly, bullshit. White racism is a “bigger deal” because Europeans developed the technology to conquer foreign lands, and not the reverse. Read Jared Diamond. But, it doesn’t mean whites have a racism gene (as she implies — it’s inherited, not learned, she said). The Japanese thought all other races were barbarians

I disagree; Cher and Dolly Parton are universally loved and always have been.

I’m not asking for a prize.

Nobody’s asking for a list.

Exactly. Thanks for putting context to this. The world will never be a better place as long as the argument continues to to divide and to polarize. The net result will be violence ... the future looks mighty ugly right now. .

I don’t think that POC have the time and patience to list out all of the “good allies” and they shouldn’t have to. if you’re not racist, she’s not talking about you. ALL white people benefit from white supremacy in some way or another, though, and the sooner you recognize that the better an ally you’ll be.

You aren’t a ‘race traitor’, but you do come across as a bit self-abasing and too quick to embrace a dubious statement as ‘obvious fact’. No skin color has a monopoly on atrocity. It isn’t a racial characteristic, it’s a (sadly) human one. In a history of struggle, the victors became oppressors, often to brutal

White people aren’t the most the violent race on Earth. White people are humans, just like every other race, and humans are violent.

“brands won’t do anything that might offend their base”

Her anger and frustration is 100% justified. I just think it’s misplaced.

The legacy of racism/bigotry both yesterday and today is a shared mutually destructive force around the globe. The racism and bigotry in the middle east, in the Asian world, in Africa and in South America is a horrible thing to behold.

What 2017 American doesn’t understand that every group of people distrusts/dislikes people that don’t look or act like themselves. This generalization is universal.

Maybe she is. I want to be generous in my interpretation of what she said. But, you’re right, that does mean that I’m electing to read more into her words.

Hate to tell you, but in areas of naturally darker skin tone...the preference for lighter tones goes much farther back in history than when white colonialism hit them.

I mean, that’s kind of true. However much of the racism we see in the world today is a product of white colonialism. Preference for lighter skinned people in Asia, Africa, Central and Southern America have direct ties to the influence of European influences as they colonized those places.

“It is insane that Bergdorf had to explain that she didn’t think all white people were inherently personally racist, but that racial attitudes, embedded in a history of the subjugation of people of color, are socialized.”

From micro-aggressions to terrorism, you guys built the blueprint for this shit.

Yeah, I mean… She ain’t wrong. As a white dude, I’ll be the first to admit that I’m a little bit racist from time to time. We all are. You either lie to yourself about it for your own benefit or admit that no one is perfect for everyone else’s benefit.