I’m fairly sure muslims aren’t the “newest” immigrants in Britain, particulately in London where this school is located (there are still mosques standing from the 19th century, and they are unlikely to have been the first built). Many arrivals were post WW2, but those from majority muslim countries were far from…

I mean, it probably is religious persecution/descrimination.

I try to be respectful to people of faith, but I can’t say I don’t agree with you. If people were better, and could hold their beliefs without making a huge show of it all the time and bucking sensible secular laws, it would be okay. The last year or so has made me think that will never be the case.

But it’s not that they necessarily make others uncomfortable- they are an actual physical barrier preventing human interaction and connection- that is not the case for a head covering, cross, yamaca (sp?) or other religious symbols etc

I mean I agree, forcing her to do something won’t help anything. So it goes.

Yes it has actually quite a few times.

It’s not racist or religiously discriminatory. Crucifixes and cross are also banned as well as any religious symbol that’s visible.

As problems go however they’re the same problems as those caused or raised over the use of Christian or Jewish deliberation groups as well so it’s not just a problem in the Islamic community in the UK 

Or its a thinly veiled stab at blatant misogyny.

I am a feminist and also grew up in Saudi Arabia. I believe in personal freedkm to wear what you want but I think face veils cross the line. I think they are disrespectful and immigrants have to be able to assimilate to some extent. Keeping your face covered isolates a person and is an affront to the country that has…

I understand where you’re coming from as an idea.

Yeah, dream on. Dress codes aren’t exclusively built to oppress women, says the guy required to wear a suit and tie every goddamn day. You can argue that notions of formality might be outdated, but if so, then men should have the same flexibility of wardrobe afforded to women, particularly in summer months. FWIW, I…

Why are you being such a hose beast about this? Is it that difficult for you to acknowledge a mistake? You sound like a fucking monster.

Really?

I’ve always thought an actual interesting conversation to have would be about the Saudification of previously-diverse Islamic cultures (which is genuinely leading to a more-static and more-monolithic version of Islam), but we’re never going to get there because so many people just want an excuse to be afraid and angry.

I so agree with this. My background is part North African, and we cover in the sun. Men in Jordan cover their heads, too, traditionally, because you will bake to a crisp if you are not covered; especially in nomadic/bedouin cultures.

It’s not nearly as bad as you’re thinking. I’m a white American, and I lived in Sudan for a bit - which I acknowledge is different from Saudi because there’s no prescribed piece of clothing that you have to wear over your other clothes (you can wear modest “modern” dress - lots of women wear abaya but no one is making…

The roma are complex and diverse set of people and each community is very different. Over here they have backwards customs that mostly affect their own people, members of family X can’t move anywhere near family Y because some feud over something thirty years go etc, violence against women, anti-education attitude out…

Can confirm. I am Sinte-Manouche on my father’s side. We are, in some ways, the last acceptable group to be proudly racist and hateful towards both the US and Europe.

This site has been strangely silent about a particular march in Chicago.... They really enjoy discussing anti-semetism in regards to the alt-right and conservatives but bring up anything regarding the left’s issues with anti-semetism and enabling anti-semetic actions in Western countries and it’s absolute radio…