Were you perhaps thinking of the other DLC, Hearthfire, which is the home building one that lets you adopt kids and the like? I imagine plenty of people thought that was lame, but I live for that kind of crap. Or Dragonborn, which takes you out on the island?

(Fuck it, I want you to be spoiled at this point: Gus and Mickey get their big kiss moment at the end of the season.)

Was there ever a more compelling beginning to a romance? Move over, Romeo and Juliet. You two have some competition in the soulmate department.

(People, why would you continue down this thread when we've already covered our spoilers? You will anyway, so here's another warning.)

There's always hope that it's a long game situation, especially with these Netflix shows that are all but guaranteed a future.

It's not really a matter of which one of the characters is worse, it's about which one actually makes an effort to change that behaviour like the narrative calls for. Mickey does by taking a hard look at herself, Gus does not by continuing to be an oblivious ass, but he still somehow reaps the rewards as if he had.

Spoilers ahead, y'all.

In Silver Lake, no less, a popular hipster neighbourhood filled with young, successful couples. All while covering Edgar, whose room he said was worth a good grand every month if he were paying rent.

Even when you describe the characters, on paper it would seem that the shows are all but the same, but the execution is so wildly different that I didn't think of You're the Worst once while I binged this. It wasn't until I saw people pointing out what should be obvious similarities that I connected the two, but…

It's different, but not always for the better. They're big fans of showing what jerks these two can be, but the guy always comes out on top. It just seems a little unbalanced considering what they seem to be attempting to build up to.

I can't help but wonder if Jimmy is just under a horrendous amount of personal debt to pay for his writer lifestyle, and just has yet to be confronted with the reality of it. Season three, maybe?

Fair enough.

So, in your opinion, we should blame the slaves for being duped into being slaves in the hopes of a better life, not the slave owners for treating people like slaves?

And how are they supposed to afford these top notch legal entertainment lawyers to go over their contracts before they've made any money or connections?

I wouldn't have as big a problem with it if Rust weren't very obviously writing for his own character and creating all of these situations for himself to act in. It just reeks of amateurish, desperate wish-fulfillment when Gus seemingly stumbles into all of these situations.

I think people are generally just tired of seeing unlikeable, not particularly attractive male protagonists continually get girls who are out of their league in almost every way. And, in this show, Gus has four romantic situations over the course of ten episodes with girls who are objectively more attractive than he…

I disagree. While it was supposed to be awkward and upsetting, I believe it was supposed to be funnily awkward and upsetting and is very much in tone for other Apatow work. The fact that we haven't seen Jay Baruchel run into the same situation in one of his movies is somewhat surprising.

I finished it, and I wouldn't not recommend it, assuming you can write off Gus' role as some obvious wish-fulfilment from Rust. If they would have handled his character as realistically and brutally as they handle Jacobs', the show could have been something great. But I enjoyed Jacobs' performance enough and genuinely…

I wouldn't be making such claims until you actually finish the show.

Laura Benanti, you are too good for this world and it does not deserve you.