The fact that you have to dig that hard to find good things (and most of them are just “things,” not even really all that good) more or less makes his point.

It does feel like a sequel that’s bought into the hype around the first one, particularly Chris Pine being brought back from the dead to reignite his so-so chemistry with Gadot, in their mind akin to Tracy and Hepburn reteaming for Adam’s Rib no doubt, and the contrived “uplifting” ending probably born of the desire…

It started out ok even fun. Then I thought I somehow missed something..Then I realized it was really stupid and the final fight was just a big mess. I'm not sure Imax would have saved that.

This movie was terrible and interviews with Patty Jenkins has left me with the impression that she is overly precious with her own big budget popcorn films. The first Wonder Woman was fun and a good example of a kind of not dumb but middle of the road superhero movie (Shazam or Doctor Strange would be other examples…

It’s easily top five worst big budget movies I’ve ever seen. I liked the first WW.

I think they kind of dodged a bullet on this film. If there was no COVID and they had a regular release with all the advertising of a big blockbuster film, the reception would have been way worse. It would have been on the level of Batman & Robin or Superman III and IV.

Stop handwringing over how it was released and handwring over the fact it was a shit movie. 

LOL, if COVID had never happened and this was released in theaters it would have been torn apart even more viciously than it did already. Warner would have likely lost just as much money.

“There was no sketchy sexual politics”

I’m still a little upset that HBO Max doesn’t seem to have any of the other 82 Wonder Woman movies in between the first one and WW84.  I still haven’t seen 84 because I’m worried I’ll be confused by the continuity.

“I don’t think it plays the same on streaming.”

“It was such a dark time,” she noted, in reference to the effect of the COVID-19 pandemic on the release of her superhero movie.

Honestly if I had watched WW 84 on a phone it could not have made the experience any worse then it was on my home theater.  It was such a shitty movie

“ But also...cope. It’s not personal. It’s the result of a global pandemic that has killed ~4.5 million people (so far).”

I still don’t get the need for directors to keep giving this incredibly lukewarm take. Yeah it sucks that the movie you made, a labor of love, didn’t get a full theatrical run. But also...cope. It’s not personal. It’s the result of a global pandemic that has killed ~4.5 million people (so far).

This was a triumph... I’m making a note here, huge success!

I have no patience for this bullshit. She wasn’t able to see his loathsome-ness because she was a cool girl who was able to hang with the cool boys...even when they literally fucked her (BTW I can’t wait to see the smear job that Starr and Kavanaugh come out with. It’ll be a doozy). Even when they ( her included) set…

She fucked him, she’s full of shit.

A lot of people seem to be finding their consciences now that the horses have been out of the barn and marauding around for 4+ years.

Judi: