The problem isn't their body type. It's how the body type is treated. A sexualized woman is not the same thing as an attractive woman. For example, Jennifer Lawrence is an undeniably attractive woman, but Katniss Everdeen is not a sexualized character. Sexualization has much more to do with how the body is presented…

But Nathan and Marcus are all about conveying power. They have swagger and chiseled features, but they are not played as eye candy and never get undressed to catch the attention of women.

Well no, that's because there's shit loads of games that have male leads and female leads are rare. Also you've just compared a series with one entry against another that has around 10.

Actually is this satire? Did i miss that? Cos if it is, bravo you got me lol

Why? Why would you not want variety?

They're free to make their vision just as we're free to call that vision tired and limited.

so we'll have 1 - 2 games with female protagonists and everything else with males because if there's ever any ask for change we can just refer back those 2 other games? Why is it such an issue if people want more diversity in gaming? The point is that GTA is such a massive game bringing in an enormous audience, it not…

I feel so bad for you.

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I think this Cracked article did a pretty great takedown of some thoughts I've been having on GTA V. I love my GTA series. I have the special preorder edition. I still own and play every GTA game. But V felt so forced to me. The unintentional comedy like watching a police officer completely glitch out or hiding…

It's crazy when you read these threads and read the same arguments FOR sexism over and over and over...which have been proven wrong a thousand times over every time an issue like this comes up.

The problem isn't just that GTA V lacks female protagonists, it's that every female character in the game is terrible. Michael's wife is a cheating trophy wife, his daughter's a spoiled brat with absolutely none of the depth you see in the relationship with his son, Franklin's aunt basically disowns him for moving out…

Oh god I thought this was satire of the stereotypical gamer but I realize you're serious right?

Initially I would say the controversy in GTA V regarding women was that it didn't have any female protagonists. But after the game came out, the real problem is that there are ABSOLUTELY ZERO women in the entire game that have speaking roles that are likable at all; they're all hissing, screaming, bitches who hate…

I expect nothing but classy responses in these comments. Don't fail me, man-children!

See, what you're doing is projecting the idea that feminists are unpleasable monsters, because that better suits a worldview that pop culture is doing nothing wrong, and therefore doesn't need to change.

There's no real satire in the stripper scenes. They just wanted to do first person lap dances in a game, because fuck it. It's not really so much that the game is sexist, as that strip clubs are sleazy and the game included them, which is a big meh as far as I'm concerned.

It's "extreme change" to ask for well rounded, well written female characters who are more than sexual objects for the male gaze? Good lord, I'd hate to see what you think real radicalism looks like.

A+ for missing the entire premise and point of the show.

I have to admit, it would have been good chance of pace to have female character in GTA. Especialy now that they did the 3 main characters act. See how people respond to having one female main character.

But having strippers? Hm, dunno. Guess the game wouldn't lose anything if they took it out. But I just think they…

All right, so what were the best depictions of women in games this year? Last of Us? Tomb Raider?