A legit supercar for 60k... that is significant. 

I’m okay with it. Hopefully, it means that I can pick one of these up with only 10k miles sub 20k in about 10 years as per usual with Corvettes.

We were house sitting and they had the exact same TV we have but they had the soap opera feature, smoothing whatever its called on. It took everything I had not to turn it off. We turned on a movie and I played with my phone because it was unwatchable.

The correlation is strong!!

Also in Chicago area and a pothole broke my car. 205/55 tire blew, I split the rim, and the front crossmember disintegrated from being driven on salt encrusted roads for 286k miles. But then again that caused me to upgrade from a 16 year old Cavalier to a Mk7 GTI. Now I have even less sidewall with 225/40. 

Agreed. I always wanted one of these to be the stable mate for my Ranger since they looked identical. But the Ranger is gone and I’d be better off with a newer Cherokee XJ for that kind of money.

True enough, I had the same year Ranger with the 2.3 and I think that only had 100 HP. Even loaded down with people or other things in the bed it went, slowly...

Congrats on the sweet XJ!! I agree with your initial price assessment. You ended up with an awesome deal. I don’t think I would’ve been able to turn it down either.

So the base models are going to be Voyagers even though everyone will still call them Pacificas? This is the same as coming out with RAM as a make and everyone still calls them Dodge.

There are several cars that exist because they are profitable even though the competition has them beat (Journey, Grand Caravan). FCA seems to keep cars the same as long as they are making money and then pour money at just a few nameplates (Jeep & the Pacifica).

I know some people see Chrysler as a luxury brand. I have always seen them as on par or under with Ford and Chevy.

I think they should do a bracket. Top seed against bottom seed until we get to the Final Four and then have them debate several times.

But, what if during the democratic debates we actually get to hear policy ideas and then during the presidential debates they focus on beating Trump in whatever means possible?

And there is the problem. I do agree with her that there are things in our environment that make us sick. Which is why we curb pollution and try to reduce the amount of transportation needed to deliver our food. However, I’m not entirely sure that’s what she means. This is too similar to the anti-western medicine talk…

When I sold Nissans I had them take our car to go browse the other lots. It was a nice gesture that people appreciated but more importantly they had to bring our car back. It worked surprisingly well. And if that didn’t work then they got all the deals to make sure they didn’t leave without buying.

Lol, like how I was told that the GTI I was looking at was driven by a woman as to imply that meant driven gingerly. I didn't bother asking why it needed brand new tires at such low mileage then.

After the sales manager told me that I told him I guess I won't bother coming back then. They really don't like it when you call their bluff. 

Yep, that’ll solve it. Just make the trucks more fuel efficient, cause that’s why people buy trucks. They don’t buy them for utility, towing capacity, or because they want a truck.

Makes sense. Billions served and billions have not been stricken with polio.

With that kind of thinking they should probably stop breathing. I mean prove to me that the air isn’t polluted.