The reason Tesla is not Level 3 is that they require the driver to constantly supervise the features. I know Musk says it will drive itself, that you can sleep or whatever, and their FSD (capable) marketing is misleading... but they put in their manual and legal disclaimers that drivers are required to supervise and…

It’s the same concept even if starkly different in cost. Repairability is becoming less of a consideration. And that’s important for items that consumers expect to be durable, Whether a $44,000 Tesla or a $1,600 Iphone.

There is a lot less consumer backlash. I guess “I should have just waited 2 weeks” feels a lot different then I should have waited 7 months.

Someone needs to hire a new editor.

So you want a chevy bolt?

I think this has a lot to do with design of the entire car, and not just that it’s an EV.

Yes, I lumped them both into the same comment. it was GM only that went back further.

They could do what GM and Ford did and give refunds for people that bought in the last 6 months. But they didn’t. I think the answer to your question is that Tesla truly doesn’t care. Old customers already spent their money, they are chasing new customers.

niche means you focus on a small corner of a large market. Volume or popularity don’t matter.

Why are you acting like niche is bad? They sell alot of cars.

Yes, they only sell 4 EV only models. No ICE, No Hybrid, basically 2 platforms. I mean, they’re not Lotus level Niche.

it’s hard to keep all the voices straight, master yoda help me.

Definitely competition now. I’m not sure they plan on selling this in huge volumes. It may be a niche car within a niche manufacturer.

ok, I forgot about Texas, it’s a rats nest of regulated and unregulated.

your arguments are no better, and like them, you are just making assertions that fit your predetermined opinion.

Electricity is regulated. They can’t just increase their prices or drop them. Standard rates are approved by the state energy regulators. If you contract outside of standard rates (where rates are not regulated) you can always opt back into the standard rate.

Can use a relay to cut power from the OBD within the unit. Connect the relay to an accessory circuit that is only powered on with the ignition. Done. Now, no power drawn from OBD when car is off.

So, any idea what the monthly subscription cost would be for buttons like this?

Exactly, and that swings both ways. My EV owner friends keep saying “I don’t have to pay for gas” and basically treats their electricity as free. And it’s not, obviously.

Deadhead miles for petrol is a consumer choice and not something you have to consider when you are using an average price of gas. If you want to figure in deadhead miles for Petrol then you have to assume they are getting the lowest regional price for the petrol (not the avg) and adjust your calculations accordingly.