Welp. YouTube commenters are way worse buy you knew that.

Amen

Agree a car can't be totally safe but other people made this feature of the shifter foolproof or at least more so than Jeep did.

I’m not for the type of downvote system that hides an answer so I agree with you there.

Jalopnik is great. The reporting on Jeep’s shifter problem has been great. Most of the commenters are great. See the excellent discussions from the April article linked in this one. Lots of people with expertise in human-machine interaction pointing out the ways Jeep’s shifter was awful.

You don’t understand the meaning of foolproof. Was there some driver error or to put it crudely foolishness? Yes, but the design should take into account that some drivers will make the error. BMW and Jaguar and others also have a similar style shifter and it automatically goes into park when the driver’s door is…

I didn’t say anyone should be silenced.

How are feeling today?

Everyone should be knocking on anybody that makes a poor shifter. If an Audi killed this guy we’d be here knocking on Audi. There’s no defense for Jeep if this went down as it appears to have.

Kinja needs a downvote function. We are going to hear a similar comment that comes from certain Jalopnik commenters. It goes along the lines of, “If people would just pay more attention...if everyone was the expert driver I am.”

I know a guy who takes his kids in his FF in winter.

Agree, it was always super annoying when a certain Hawaiian prep schooler, Ivy Leaguer raised by a Ph.D. mother would start dropping g’s in front of southern audiences.

Very happy with it after one week. A single owner car with a 118k miles. Idle is rough which may be due to bad motor mounts but 10 years and that many miles that’s understandable and not a horrible fox. The interior is very good, 9 out of 10. It’s actually a cabriolet so pretty much the same until the ‘08, right?

I went car shopping recently and bought a Mini with my wife. There are some low milage examples but for a lot maybe most it’s a daily driver.

Can I get ungrayed please? I've been on other sites for a while

#loafersandwhitesocks

Google IMS bearing fix. There’s like a $2k pre-emptive fix. Does it feel great to spend spend that money on a prophylactic solution? Well, some guys have paid lots for the privilege of using prophylactics.

+1 to what everyone else said though these aren't hated or reviled exactly. They've just followed a normal depreciation curve for cars of this age. They aren't collectible like the older air-cooleds. They're just decent cars that are aging.

That was how the 1 Series M (official name) came badged from the factory—just an M w/o numbers. BMW didn’t want to call that car an M1 because of the 70's supercar.

My 135i M-Sport has M door sills and M dead pedal.