There are plenty of variables on the road that no amount of planning and driver training can account for. Far too many for a blanket statement like this to hold even a tiny amount of water. 

KTM Duke 390 is about $5k out the door with some accessories. Does about 180 miles to a tank and handles like a dream.

A new Ruckus starts at $2750. That’s about the same utility for less than 1/3 the price.

A brand new Rebel 300 starts at $4500. It can do more for about half the price.

I just don’t see the value proposition here. 

Yamaha MT-07 brand new: $7599

So, $9500 for a 63mph, 63 mile range scooter. I recently bought my son an ‘04 SV650 with panniers and a trunk for $1700. As much as I love all things electric, this is just unreasonable.

I have spent $6500 on a bicycle. I have spent more than that on a motorcycle. But I wouldn’t spend that on something that seems more like an off-brand toy.

I like how the two people they quoted essentially said it’s a big deal precisely because of how big a deal the UAW makes about American manufacturing. They didn’t say they’re necessarily upset the pens were made in China, they’re upset at the hypocrisy of hearing their leaders bleating about saving American jobs and…

Why is the UAW spending any amount of dollars on pens to commemorate its President?

So do explain why it would be a halo car like the Hummer that pushed people to switch to electric and not mainstream crossover like the Model Y?

Saturn doesn’t actually have any brand equity to resurrect.

So do you want to bet by how much times will Model Y outsell this hummer? 10X?

GM is bringing back the wrong brand. All GM-made EVs should be Saturn. I personally never had a problem with Hummer, but if they honestly think people have forgotten the Hummer Stigma from 15 years ago, they’re on Mars. It’s the same stupidity that gave us the Yukon Hybrid. Great technology, worked well, nobody bought…

Pretty sure Tesla has way more chance than Rivian. But other than Tesla, Rivian is probably the one with the most chance.

Why? You think GM will get bailed out again in the next 10 years?

Neverland. There’s a way to go before you get any desirable electric vehicle for $25k new.

Counterpoint - we’re still very much in “Stage 3". GM just throws out a couple big numbers to get the blogs all hard, and we get articles like this. People still care very much for EV-centric stats like range and battery size.

Don’t hold your breath unless nissan decides to start electrifying Frontiers.

People forced the government to regulate the hell out of the auto industry in terms of safety. All that safety add weight, engineering cost, manufacturing costs, material costs, etc.

I mean, you could search and find out pretty good studies that take this into account for a total life cycle analysis. In the end, it ends up being a case of if you value total green house emissions vs land fill & recyclability vs total energy consumption. Electric cars come out ahead for emissions (even if your power…

This is simply a response to the Cybertruck for crown of Ultimate Brotruck Penis Enhancer. Where’s a $25k practical electric truck?