remember when an impeachment inquiry was something we wanted to happen? Now we just want them to stop acting like high school kids. the Dems are going to waste all the potential energy that could make 2020 a success.

The centrist, old Dems in Washington today would think that MLK, Jr. was too far left TODAY ... in the words of Billy Joel, we didn’t start the fire, but we do have a line on some cheap gasoline

Agreed. I feel like Trump proved that in 2016. Running a campaign that “appeals to everyone” is usually bland, forgettable, and full of vague talking points. Take a stand for something and get people genuinely excited to vote.

Swing voters do exist, they just are a far smaller fraction of the electorate and not worth significant investment in most elections. But in a high polarization environment they’re even less relevant. The people who might switch parties will probably do so near the last minute based on highly personalized reasons that…

I think the whole idea of “appealing to Republicans” is not just unnecessary, it’s a flawed strategy. It won’t work. Elections in the USA are not won and lost by getting swing voters to vote for you. In fact, I think the concept of the “swing voter” is a myth.

On one hand, I’m exhausted and mostly furious with the risk-averse Democratic leadership that still think it’s the ‘90s and that “appealing to Republicans” is a necessary electoral strategy. It ignores mountains of evidence, from political science to the daily experiences they as career politicians ought to be able to…

yeah so that “tens of thousands of high paying jobs” line is bullshit.

I SO agree, Pangea. 2016 was all about Demos chasing “centrist” Repubs and trying to convince them to vote Demos (we saw how that went over).

Damn. I never thought of 3rd parties seriously since the 2016 fiasco, but you have a great idea.

Nah. It’s tea party time. The republicans hopped to the beat of the freedom caucus folks, dems will do the same for the anti-segregationists justice dems.

Thanks.  My instinct is generally to response to comments that are at least partly substantive.  Sorry if that pollutes y’alls threads with trolls.

So?  The young guns are right in this situation.  

It doesn’t.

Moderates and “centrists” hold power because we have a two-party system. You can’t expect a truly and purely progressive party to thrive in a two-party system, especially not when the system of government is itself built around a series of checks and balances designed to stifle disruptive changes to the country. This…

Has someone checked Pelosi’s mantle to see if there’s a giant portrait of Neville Chamberlain hanging there?

I starred you because you lay out great arguments.

The caucus, for the most part, reflects the Democratic electorate. I wish it weren’t the case. I wish the answer was just that every moderate or centrist could be primaried and then win the general election, and we could speed the pace of progress, but that assumes a greater faith in the American people than the…

The centrist Democrats would literally rather watch the Earth burn than do something. 

It was reportedly a threat from Democrats in the >>>Problem Solvers Caucus<<<, after all, which forced Pelosi to hold a vote on that horrible immigration bill.