Ok, that’s the public option, my bad. But if you think it’s advantageous for a our country to have people sick and dying unless they are rich, well then you’re just a sociopath.

No, don’t worry, I saw the numbers you probably made up. Doesn’t mean I have to believe anything you said, especially when, even if you’re being honest and doing the math correctly, your $132/month cost for health insurance (obviously your plan covers only you, not a spouse or any dependents) is like in the bottom 5%…

It is completely, utterly acceptable to me that you pay another $1000 per year. Under fear of state-sanctioned violence, too.

Oh, you ran your numbers? Well, I guess that settles it then.

They are literally in the thread.

Coincidentally, moving to government insurance only saves a lot of the bureaucratic waste.

Show your numbers then. Also part of the plan is to let people keep their insurance plans if they wish.

And tell that to the people who are bankrupt due to medical bills. If taxes go really go up that much (I doubt it), then maybe we could think about not giving tax breaks to billionaires, allowing corporations to pay zero taxes, and putting more into our military than every other developed country combined in order to…

Pretty easy to show. I make 90k. I pay $132 a month in medical, 31.50 in dental, and 6.53 in vision. 1584+378+78.36=2040+500 Deductible = 2540.36 if I use my deductible.  Under Bernie’s plan the individual tax is 4% or 3600.

Simple comeback for the “universal healthcare will drive up taxes” people: Of course it will, but that will be far, far offset by your savings on premiums and deductibles.

Ahh Splinter Urnialism strikes again. This is the hard hitting reporting that we have all come to know and loathe about the typists that blog here.  Keep on working on those hard stories, Splinter.

I want—and am inclined—to believe what Strother says, and that once Biden starts trying to articulate policy ideas beyond discarded Obama lines he plucked out of the trash, he’s cooked.

You should look up the Nordic paradox. This is an issue of choices. The choices that women make even in the most egalitarian societies are ones that will create and income gap. This has been studied repeatedly and the results keep coming back to women choosing to not work as long, contiguously, or in professions that…

Oh, so your own statements do not reflect your worldview? That’s an interesting claim.

As a software developer for over 20 years now, I can’t think of one single positive aspect of unionizing - but I can think of plenty of terrible ones.

Good luck unionizing a highly mobile, job hopping industry like IT. People move around a lot in IT to get raises and promotions. The skills they bring are valuable and they tend to move a lot to maximize compensation. Combine that with the millennials job hopping when they can’t change the world in a year and the…

That was dangerously close to self reflection for HamNo. I don’t think it will last but it’s a glimmer of hope that he knows the bullshit he sells is in fact bullshit.

ahh the hits just keep coming.

Warren gets elected, the dems take the senate, the dems kill the filibuster. That’s the plan. You can think the odds of that happening are astronomically low,

When Biden got hit by the #Metoo brigade, I was talking to my gf about it. She asked if he was running yet. I said no, but it was clear he was going to. She immediately said she would vote for him over anyone else she had seen. She is a Democrat though not tuned into the machinations of the campaigns yet. She is a…