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She’s been around for a long time and people who’ve grown up with her have a lot of affection for her because she’s been part of the background of our lives as we’ve aged, and much like Cher, she’s funny, self deprecating, gave good talk show appearances, if your knowledge of Bette Midler is limited to chick flicks

She was making a show-biz joke about how the members of Kardashian empire will do anything to be on and stay on TV. It fell flat b/c Caitlyn didn’t transition in order to get a show. But still Bette, assumed people would know where she was coming from. She’s not anti-trans, she’s anti-no-talent reality whores.

Agreed. I get being offended at thinking of being trans as a phase (but I don’t think that was the intent of the joke, as far as good/bad intentions matter). I also get the joke of the Jendashians being willing to do anything (including transition) for ratings. And I think BM, though she may have spoke out of turn,

This is like a loop de loop. People telling Bette Midler to get educated about trans rights because she tweeted about Caitlyn Jenner, when Caitlyn Jenner was once a wealthy white Republican man who is now a wealthy white Republican woman who herself needs to be educated about LGBTQ rights...*shakes head* Anyway the

Is it possible to say something about one trans person without it equating to saying it about all trans people?

yeah, Bette Midler of all people is transphobic. People are fucking idiots sometimes. Got no problem with her tweet. Caitlyn Jenner is trash and a publicity whore. She also was when she was Bruce and a man. Then milked it to a bunch of bullshit “courage” awards that even the transgender community wasn’t on board with.

I’m certainly not trying to won the word, or invested in its ownership. My point was and is that this—just this word specifically from the article—has been around in many forms for a long time by lots of different subcultures. I don’t think “fuckboy” is a fair candidate for complaints about appropriation. I have

Oh, bae. Is it a noun? is it a verb? Is it another shortening of baby, such as boo? I JUST DONT KNOW GET OFF MY LAWN!

There is a reason dumb slang words or phrases come and go in popular culture. It’s hit or miss. Black people didn’t invent slang, nor are they the best at applying it to there everyday vernacular. Fuckboy is an awkward word on in itself, used by dumb people trying to compensate for their lack of vocabulary, just like