You’re exhibiting far too much thought in this. The relationship between Trump and Musk is purely transactional. Much like it is between these two and anyone else in their orbits.

It’s only down 8%. That’s not tanking nearly enough for this shitshow of vaporware. But then again everyone should have already known that whatever Musk announced would not be able to happen for another decade or so.

I think Elon’s fired all the people at Tesla that actually made the company amazing. So now it’s just where like artists fart out Elon’s dumb ideas. 

It’s clear what his plan is... say the software is totally ready, but evil leftist government won’t let him do it. Never mind he’s not trying to do it in TX where they will let Musk do whatever he wants.

By the way, that AI generated “van” thing was fed this train (art deco streamliner):

He promised autonomous full self driving “next year” back on 2016, so the 2027 promise will mark a full decade of unrealistic promises.

About the Optimus.

to unveil the company’s first autonomous taxi.

I agree 100%. I actually think the “robovan” is probably the vehicle that makes the most sense. A robotaxi doesn’t really solve any problems. Musk opened the event with all this talk about traffic and getting around in LA but automated taxis don’t fix that - they only contribute to the problem of high density traffic.…

Sure the stock is tanking after everyone collectively began to realize that the emperor has no clothes and is just hocking miracle tonics, but I guess they don’t realize that it’s more of a Shelbyville idea.

a 20 passenger van with tesla’s FSD and no human override controls? I can’t see the robovan being anything but an art deco toaster of death

They started the even almost 45 minutes late, the livestream was choppy even on HIS OWN PLATFORM, the production values were pretty bad (camera angles, cuts, choice of shots, etc.). And that’s before we talk about Elon being a horrible, horrible presenter, and a strange, strange human (?) being.

Elon thinks everyone in the world will have 1-2 Optimus robots, as in literally, he said he plans to sell as many Optimuses as there are people in the world.

Are the dummy “shut up and take my money” investors finally done being convinced by Musk’s vaporware promises? At long last are they actually able to recognize a con man doing an obvious con? Somebody slap me I must be dreaming.

Tesla, especially CyberTruck

At this point they’ll need to ship in volume with fabulous results for me to even start believing it. Tesla in increasingly a vaporware company and Musk needs money and a stock jump very badly. There is no reason to believe any of this is real or can scale.

“says that unsupervised FSD will come to current Tesla owners in California next year”

First Gear: Anyone who watched last night’s Tesla event and is an investor should be concerned. From the delayed event kickoff to the poor production values, to the ridiculous claims, it all screams low-rent high-grift. I cannot fathom for me how investors can take him seriously with all his bloviating and “corporate…

so, it was a classic Tesla event! 

Because he’s always earned it.