Exactly. Though I will say that if a writer or director puts out film after film that constantly fail the test, it speaks to their ability as a creator. In this day an age professionals at that level just shouldn't be messing up to that degree.

I very much trust they can do it, even keeping in some of the femme fetal aspects that seem unavoidable with the character. It is just such and easy trap for cliché that it needs to be handled with a deft hand, and will rest a lot on the talet on screen.

Very good points. But, there are some real problems in the relationship and structure of the characters. Though Jane has somewhat of a purpose in life, it is very slapdash, leaving her about half a character. The rational for why both of them 'fall in love' doesn't seem to move much past 'he's cute' and 'she seems…

It looks pretty cheesy and horrid. Yet I will see it. If they make 10 more Pirates movies I will see them all. It's a sickness. One I embrace.

DO IT! McShane in 3D!

From what I remember they've said it in trailers.

Female villain good. Female villain motivated by her desire to bone Thor and kill his girlfriend..... :(

Or get killed by. Or both.

Though you make a good point, you miss the core meaning of the test. It is 'testing' for the purpose of the conversation. A great example to me is Iron Man, where the only time two women talk is to talk about Tony and his sex life. The conversation is not about them in the least. It's maybe, just a little bit,…

I do believe my image failed. So feel free to ignore me.

I'll tell you later.

When I was a small child we used to play Star Wars and I never wanted to be the bad guy. The boys I played with would always protest, insisting that we change things up from time to time, but I would hide behind the "Well, do you know of ANY women working for the Empire?"

And not every story must slavishly adhere to the formula. I will be opening myself to some mockery, but one of my all time favorite movies is No Escape (hey, we were all 12 once) and there are just no women at all in it because it is a movie about very violent criminals and on average there are a very small…

In a very real way talking about genre is like having that old conversation "there are only — stories" (number of stories subject to the personal tastes of your high school English teacher, in my case, four).

The tax code is one of the best examples I've heard of about how information can be viewed as a life form. Over time it will grow in complexity and scope in much the same way as an emergent species. It will create more of itself often with slight variation, insuring that should there be changes in its environment,…

Though you make a good point we should be sure not to confuse 'something different' with 'repackaging old ideas and selling them as new.'

I will admit that art is subjective and so is the historical study of it. But I think finding out things like how much our pre-human ancestors used art in their everyday lives is a much more important find than some lady who sat for a picture.

Very cool idea. So cool I'm adding a #tips tag because I love everything CJA says about writing, and this would be a good one. Hmm, some sense is going off that she might have done something about it, maybe when talking about writing believable characters period. I must investigate.

Which is why very, very few people except nuts actually will say that. Hell, I'm a crazy feminist and I usually only even think about the 'rules' one out of every ten movies I watch.

I do a lot of writing and never have that problem. The idea is that if they are full fledged characters with real lives in a real world, natural interactions between two women will just happen. Of course even literary heavyweights like Stephen King struggle with it. Writing believable women is one of the real…