That grimdark tone works for The Dark Knight because that’s become the defining trait for that character since Tim Burton’s film (and one of many reasons why people hated the Schumacher Batman movies).

I’m more than sure Nolan was only superficially involved with the movie and his name was plastered as “producer” due to name recognition (read: Nolan got paid big bucks to have his name plastered on the screen). Had Nolan been involved it would not have been this much of a mess.

True, although I will say Winter Soldier does use casual chatter well to portray casual respect for dire situations. See: Black Widow trying to pick a girl for Steve while interrogating someone.

Yeah, Nolan has gotten a lot of backlash, but he gives you a complete narrative arc every time.

Except The Dark Knight had maybe some similar pacings to Winter Soldier. Both movies have very serious, more “grounded” settings, but both also used humor to break up scenes. The format of The Dark Knight could be summed as thus: Batman action scene, quick cut to Wayne and Alfred quipping, Joker scene with dark humor,…

Yeah I didn’t understand that about this review at all. It seemed to want to say that Batman was good because it was different from Marvel superhero movies. But it was no different from DC superhero movies. It’s like arguing the new Apple iphone is good because it’s different from any andriod that has come before. It…

At this point, it’s amazing to see that the best/truest representation of Batman and Superman are TV versions of Green Arrow and The Flash.

Without cracking open my nerdy history book, Superman II is and will forever be Donner’s movie. (Sorry, the Donner Cut of Superman 2 is one of my favorite CBMs ever.) You are absolutely right, though.

I loved the Dark Knight. Its narrative falls apart a little bit at the end, but the first hour and a half to two hours of the movie is really, really solid. The issue is that it’s a well-edited movie that makes its point without beating you over the head with it. It meanders a bit towards the end, but up until that…

Ive thought that too, since, as Flash said, “Lois is the key!”. Well, we know what happened with Lois in Injustice. And what happened after.

Except The Dark Knight had maybe some similar pacings to Winter Soldier. Both movies have very serious, more “grounded” settings, but both also used humor to break up scenes. The format of The Dark Knight could be summed as thus: Batman action scene, quick cut to Wayne and Alfred quipping, Joker scene with dark humor,…

That’s true, especially during the first act of Jessica Jones. However as the season went on, jokes faded in favor of visual horror. Same can be said for Daredevil for the most part.

that plus knowing when to be dark and when to not be dark. i wonder if someone did an analysis and figured out if batman killed more people than the Punisher in the second season of Daredevil.. or his other movies.

Jessica Jones is the perfect example of balancing comedy with serious. As the season went on, the jokes faded as the situation become more dour. It got dark, VERY dark, but it still had a strong story to carry it.

The criticism of Marvel’s house style is more or less on point. But it seems absurd to level the criticism that everything is too funny when Christopher Nolan’s Batman movies brooded their way to a giant haul of cash at around the same time that the Marvel approach came together. BvS is not daring to be different;…

Nah, you don’t get it, this film is “more complex.” That means it’s good in the ninth, tenth, and eleventh dimensions but that in our normal four-dimensions you can’t detect its goodness.

Ang Lee’s Hulk, a classic?!

I must say, the “Marvel Method” contains 2 seasons of Daredevil and 1 season of Jessica Jones.

“Ang Lee’s Hulk, a forgotten classic”

If you keep repeating it’s good, maybe you’ll believe yourself.