So glad you're around in these threads to share some straight talk and also detailed history. It's saddening but also helpful. Thank you for the effort.

If you really didn't need to know, why not just change the topic? Gently ask about her thoughts or feelings about how life has changed if you don't want to hear about the nitty gritty? Also, giving birth can be pretty traumatic; god forbid a friend discuss it with someone she trusts. :/

Also I can back a day later to post that what that priest did is a horrible injury and should not have happened. That is absolutely horrible and while not rape, those kinds of violations can still leave lasting impact. For some priests can be like father stand ins. Yuck.

Hugs to you. There has to be some way to find a kindred spirit. Meetup for mums? Playgroups? I so wish you didn't have to feel alone.

Ugh, it's true. You didn't take it out on your wee ones. You sweet woman. What a wonderful story. I hope you and your family are well.

Netherlands rule.

Or how about the fact that COMPLETE STRANGERS will jump into a gang rape circus on a bus or wherever just because it's happening. Yes, sexual assault and other horrific crimes happen everywhere but there is something especially surreal and terrifying about being alone and all of a sudden having one rapist make the…

She had the sense and ambition to make something of the company while he had some pretty weird boundary issues. Go watch it again. Also, bitches get shit done.

She had the sense and ambition to make something of the company while he had some pretty weird boundary issues. Go…

Anytime I fart for the rest of the day today I will smile and think of your marriage proposal fondly.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

Wow, how very rude and clueless of them. Good on you for not letting them ruffle your feathers.

What's wrong with you? Don't encourage this behavior! ::passes note that says encourage this behavior::

You are beautiful and we should be drinking buddies. Also, what kind of whiskey. Call me.

Maybe keeping them both will be yet another big "twist" in the show to keep the ratings rising and viewers watching? I first thought it might be a fun idea but now I'm thinking it might turn into a mad house circus.

They should find a way to keep them both for the entire season. They both seem like they could be fun to watch.

Many parents seek out intensive live in therapy environments for their bio children when deemed necessary and the most appropriate and safest form of treatment. It's not abandonment.

It's like you were both blessed.

You should re-read his/her post. It sounds like you misread quite a bit of what was written.

I feel terrible for everyone involved and I hope that the other children can heal from this experience.

By "give back" I imagine she was placed in a intensive therapy based environment. More harm than good is done to the adopted child if kept in the family where the people around her don't know how to handle her outbursts and the family itself will probably suffer from long term PTSD. It's not fair to everyone all…