You don't watch the show, do you?
You don't watch the show, do you?
The show might as well focus on one storyline for every season and have us guess where it all fits timeline-wise because that's essentially what you have to do with this.
Fuck narrative cohesion is basically what you're saying, just because every other show, movie and book has it, why should GOT?
Because scenes generally do follow sequentially in television, barring flashbacks. And yet here we have Sam only just getting off the ship to Horn Hill when a lot of other sequences were shown before, even in the last season that should have taken more time.
Because its supposed to be a cohesive narrative?
The Sand Snakes teleported to Kings Landing and back to Dorne in the time it took for Jon to get resurrected… this has been an ongoing problem
Except the guy preaching nonviolence to him dies horribly, driving him to pick up an axe and take revenge on the Brotherhood in accordance with Ian McShane's non!wishes.
If the writers didn't hate Stannis so much I would say they were showing us how incompetent Jon is compared to him, but they do.
My question is if you're going to give Stannis' story to Jon, why make Jon so unsuccessful at it?
Certainly not the undead lady who is obsessively devoted to killing Freys and not smallfolk, right???
He's going to go do some violence 'cause violence is awesome! And 'cause fuck whatever Ian McShane said, he's dead!!
So they couldn't structure the plot to let him have an actual arc? And the show is supposed to be streamlined??
Catch up with what? He's still devoted to Cersei, he has no arc at all
Then he'll look like a ratty teddy bear
I stopped 5 hours ago, genius, and he didn't win any argument. Go troll someone else
They never said Stannis burned Shireen, they only said Shireen was burned. Again all these adaptation changes add up
In the book Melisandre is all alone with Shireen without even Jon to protect her, its pretty easy to see what happens next
Except Stannis specifically left Shireen at the Wall when he started his campaign against the Boltons, and made his retainers promise to put her on the Iron Throne in the event of his own death. He's not going to be the one who burns Shireen
I don't think this is an argument, just a difference of opinion. My problem with changing and retreading these plotlines is that they just destroy good characters.
Stannis is a great character that the GoT writers absolutely loathe and I just wish we could have seen that.
They dropped it when they screwed it over, that's what I'm saying
The world building adds to the plotting though, and everything I described is a lot of "meat". If you were talking about the show where they just drop plot lines they screwed up, I would agree with you
Except Stannis plot isn't the only one being recycled. Dany flew out of Mereen without doing much of the actual governance she did in the books, instead they gave that to Tyrion. So essentially you have Dany being more concerned with conquering than with governing.
And then we have both Jaime and Brienne going through…
And why can't castles look like castles in the show?