But think back to all the pairings Raf had in scenes: Jane, Petra, Michael, Louisa… Even Xo and Petra, with their little moment in this episode, made a bigger impression on me than most of Raf's scene with other characters (acting-wise, not script-wise). I think that comes down to the actors. They are so good that a…

To be honest, I don't even find him THAT hot… I mean, he is obviously attractive, but I find him a bit too generic. Like, he is handsome and charming but I can't see nothing unique in his brand of charm. I find Michael's goofy charm hotter, despite Baldoni being more handsome.

I'd love them to tackle this in the show. I am sure they'd be pretty cool and sensitive about transformative works, fandoms and such.

Except that in a way they are both Jackie, because there is no way Jane is as laid back as Donna.

Well, he is Mateo's father, so he can't completely disappear… I think most of what you say is mostly about Baldoni not being such a good actor. He is not bad by any means, but most of the cast are well above average and in my opinion, he is just good. He never gives a wrong delivery or anything, but I never find…

I really thought I couldn't laugh at any more Frozen jokes, I thought I would find myself GAGGING if I ever heard that movie again, but JTV can get away with everything, apparently.

I don't think he is more attracted to his exes at all… At least that is not how I read it. But I agree that is how Hannah perceives the situation and that she won't be able to get over that. I agree with everything you say from Hannah's perspective, even if I don't agree with her, I totally see where she is coming…

Yes, I see where she's coming from too. And yes, I don't think they'll be able to come back from that either… Not because he'll be put off by her insecurity, but because he'll be paranoid about her going through his things. There is no way you can live like that. I mean, if she was just nosy with everyone it'd be one…

My first thought when Fran said they were his ex-girlfriends was "Do these girls know he is keeping those pictures to use them?". I mean, I'd certainly not want any ex-boyfriend to keep nudes. I know there is no way to check, but I'd at least ask them to delete them…
From Hannah's perspective, I sympathise but I don't…

I think this is a case of "both" most of us have suffered.

By all means, that would have been better. But I think, as it is, we have an "acceptable" explanation.

" but giving a more concrete reason why he couldn't leave would have been helpful"
Well, having the boss of the DEO disappearing right when they are dealing with such a major crisis would be suspicious, and no one knows he is not a human, so I'd say that is a good reason. Though I am pretty sure it is an incidental…

The fact that the wimpy nerdy tech guy is actually quite hot can help… But yes, that subplot didn't work at all.

Those eyes should be illegal, they could get people into trouble!

Well, Clint Eastwood has a son and he is doing movies, and he looks a lot like his father. At 29, he may be too young, but I thought about him immediately when they said this was going to be a real thing. He'd probably be cheaper, too.

I think Bruce is the worst part of those. I mean, I can't buy Nolan as Wayne. I just can't. He is far too slender, his face is skinny, he doesn't look like Wayne. Great actor, worked great with what he had, but in my opinion he was miscast.

He is still pretty good looking now, at least for my taste.

I agree with you 100%, that's why I find it interesting that a show dealing with this construct doesn't quite get into establishing what it means for the protagonist and comparing that to what it means for other characters. We get clues here and there, but nothing explicit.

Yes, my question was more about what Jane considers sex. As you say, I also think that oral sex and all that sex-adjacent, and I wonder if masturbation counts if it comes from direct intereaction with someone else, or it counts even without someone else, or if it doesn't count at all. It'd be really cool to see Jane's…

Very informative, thank you!! I didn't know about birth and hymen. Regarding masturbation, I am still not sure Jane does it? I think she does, but then again, strict catolicism wouldn't allow it and we see her caressing her legs and body but nothing direct… Also Prof hottie could have started with oral sex or…