Heh your bank won’t do a loan on a factory racecar. If Porsche does have financing I’m assuming it would be on the order of 14% with 60% down.

You can’t compare a factory customer racecar to a hacked up 30 year old BMW. There’s something to be said for a no hassle, no wrenching trackday in a serious off road car that is competition legal if you’re so inclined.

The heat death of the universe is in 4 billion years but we don’t worry about it because it’s not relevant. Moving parts wear out but in this case the Tesla powertrain is going to last for longer than anyone wants to drive it. As opposed to the usual GM planned obsolescence where your car is a giant pile of crap in 15…

If you think that a 700 HP gasoline motor and transmission have a similar reliablity, cost and useful lifetime as a 700 HP electric motor, then you probably need bold fonts to make your points because you have none. The sum of your arguments is “electric cars will probably cost the same to maintain because I have no…

Amazing car. I’m not sure who actually needs a 650S when this exists. Further, it’s excessive enough that I’d appreciate a $150k model with a mere 400 HP. Maybe an NA V8 or a turbo V6.

Cars with on board power plants are more complicated than cars without on board power plants. We’re starting to see hybrid cars with small motors on each wheel. I love my PDK but I’m cognizant that’s a $14,000 part with an average lifespan not much more than 100,000 miles. Eliminating the part simplifies the car. Your…

It’s like comparing the support issues of a PC versus and iPad. Yeah they’re both computers, but they have slightly different support profiles. One is dramatically simpler for the folks at home, even if you’re some kind of engine repair expert who loves getting grease all over his hands.

I would agree that a Volt is not much different than a Malibu, and is actually a lot more complicated. You miscategorize Tesla as being like other EV and hybrids. It’s a completely different category of transportation. You buy it differently, update it differently, fuel it differently, service it differently, and…

If you wanted a car to buy and keep for 12 years, this would be it. But let’s face it, we’re car fanatics and this is just too banal.

Whenever I read Roundel and see these old timers with 10 BMW’s, I always assume it’s because 7 of them are not currently drivable for mechanical reasons.

Tesla might be the world’s first $1 trillion company. They have a giant moat on distribution. Mastery of software, both in the car and in the ERP built in house which they don’t pay license fees for. They open sourced all of their patents to encourage other car companies entering the electric game late to standardize.…

They’re not salespeople and they really don’t mind. They get paid the same whether you drive their cars or not. It’s actually pretty fun for them to go for a ride rather than stand around in the store. Brand ambassadors. I went one day and did a P85D. Then like 10 months later I drove the 70D and thought it had plenty…

Yeah go drive one and get a little bit more involved in the experience. It’s like saying Apple is bad as you type it from an old PC and you’ve never been in the store or used the product. The pain of pumping gas every week and being financially responsible for repairs on a car is far worse than anything a Tesla owner…

The longevity difference is like comparing a filament light bulb to an LED light bulb. If you can’t comprehend that difference, you can’t think. So you’ll have to wait. Buy 3 more gasoline cars while the Tesla owners refurbish the last car they’ll ever buy.

They should make up their mind. By their logic a Blackberry is better than an iPhone because the BB user keeps it in a drawer and never complains (or uses it).

Never liked the cars with long hoods. The Porsche is the exact opposite - it’s the best line of sight because the frunk rakes down steep. The only arch is the headlights, which looks like a fighter jet from the cockpit.

You have a very negative attitude and a bit of stockholm syndrome. You think it’s normal to pay $3000 a year for fuel and then fix all of the things that starting a fire in your car every day breaks over time. Middle class families are going to love having that money back in their pocket. Every Prius and compact…

“My Telsa is a mess of issues” - no owner ever

These are non issues for owners. They’re not getting stranded. They’re not getting stuck with the bill. It’s zero downtime, here’s an identical loaner Tesla while we fix your other Tesla it’ll be back in 8 hours. It’s like saying some iPhones are broken. No drama, here’s a new iPhone.

When Tesla gets a marketing department they’re going to have to do some education because people don’t seem to get it. It’s hard because we’re used to the way things were with gasoline cars - $250 a month for fuel, $2k a year for repairs, and they’re worthless in 10 years because the repair liability is more than the…