My friends and I made a high school film involving the train formation. We are no longer allowed around high schools.

I think 2 pelvic thrusting motions is OK, a third will draw a flag every-time.

NFL Logic

Not to mention that Brown would not let the accused present evidence in his defense. Regardless of whether a rape occurred or not, this is a pretty blatant example of illegally railroading a student by a university to get an outcome they wanted.

Just going to quote this section of the original Washington Post article which was strangely not quoted here:

Yup. The school is the one who fucked up here, and they tried to fix it by quickly coming up with a definition after this incident had taken place. Unfortunately, from a legal standpoint, the judge is right, you can’t suspend a student based on a definition that didn’t exist at the time of the incident, and then write…

You’re right that they have a right not to go to police. But they don’t have the right to impact the education of their accused unless they are willing to report to police because the accused has a fundamental right to be considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

I find the tribunal nonsense to be pointless to begin with.

No. But if two employees hang out after work drinking and one accuses the other of sexual assault, I certainly don’t think it’s appropriate for a workplace to be involved in investigating or punishing those claims. It should be investigated by actual police officers.

“Exactly. Yet people seem to want sexual assault to be a special case that requires a conviction before it’s “real.””

Of all the arguments I find sympathetic, this is not one of them.

“ The same person who doesn’t want to be involved with the cops should have the right to get an education safely.”

Compromise in the case of a convicted person is one thing, compromise in the case of an accused (but unprosecuted) person is a very different thing, and that’s exactly what we’re seeing play out in cases like the on in this story.

So how do you accommodate that worldview in a way that doesn’t violate the rights of the accused (but unconvicted)? That’s the problem, nobody seems to have found a way to do that and I don’t see you offering any suggestions, just attacking me for pointing it out.

Exactly. And sadly I’m not sure there is a completely fair solution to not making a victim encounter their accuser at school. It’s a terrible side effect of rape culture but innocent until proven guilty is such a fundamental core concept of our society that I’m not sure how we protect victims from encountering…

I wish that were the answer. In SO many “college towns” (all of mine, at least), the city cops worked very clearly in collusion with the college in order to, essentially, keep the students happy because...............yummy tuition dollars and local business interests. White males were especially happy.

Where did I say it was? Equal treatment and fairness are guaranteed by a number of laws. Creating some extrajudicial tribunal to enact justice for an accuser only serves to deprive the accused of his day in court.

FYI:

“So how do you propose they discipline a student who sexually assaults another student?”

Of course there was a policy in place. It just hasn’t kept up with changing “definitions” of consent.