The level of depersonalization is pretty disconcerting to civilians like me. I did work for the Navy as a contractor, and a Lt. Cmdr. asked an E-2 to help me. "Hey, E-2, get over here and escort Ms. Graby Sauce around the base." I asked, "What is her name?" He said, "Oh, I don't know, I just call her E-2."

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the information.

Wow, how do you all keep track of all the people to hold grudges against for decades? It must be exhausting. Do you chisel their names in a "Never Forget" stone at Jezebel HQ? I can only imagine that you must be for the death penalty because once someone commits a crime against a woman, he might as well cease to…

Question for everyone: Why is the ability to carry a bunch of dead weight the standard that everyone likes to use? Can the fit male 5'7", 145 lb. guy carry the 6'4" 240 lb man? Isn't there always a likelihood that there will be a mismatch between who is injured and who is available to carry them to safety?

It's pretty appalling how little these people think of women.

Yep. We Persuasion lovers have been around the bin, through the fire, etc.

Persuasion is my favorite, too. I don't know why it's not as popular, but of all of her novels, it's the one that grabbed my romantic sensibilities the strongest. Maybe because I'm a spinster myself. The bloom is off!

Nailed it.

Yeah, that was ridiculous. They were just looking for a reason to oust her.

I'm with you. You aren't a bigot. You are asking valid questions. Everyone else on Earth is advised to accept the bodies they have, to change what's going on in their heads rather than try to change undiseased aspects of their bodies. Only transgendered people are encouraged to surgically alter perfectly healthy body…

The most hilarious part of this ordeal is the idea that Hillary would be scared of any of those jokers on Fox or the Senate. Even with a concussion, she could hand them their asses.

Yeah, I like Hillary, but I LOVE me some Joe Biden.

My cousin had this book! I remember looking at the pictures, scandalized. My aunt was an enlightened, breastfeeding, Afro-wearing, black power having, natural birth giving woman. My parents were not, so I had to glean a lot about the birds and the bees on my own.

The lead *may* have been cast for her race since she's inspired by a real person.

They are trying to make them sympathetic, yes, but they aren't really trying to make them *right*. The drama is in the fact that they are wrong, wrong, wrong. Mellie is going to make their lives a living hell. It's going to be great!

Obviously. It's not a "dumb attitude." It's a joke.

The after pictures look like unreal, ethereal fairies. They are so perfect, they don't even look like people. I'd rather be friends with people than fairies, so that's where that comment came from. It was a glib comment. Please don't get bent out of shape.

I wonder if the differences in apparent quality of results has to do with the types of surgery prevalent in the US vs. these girls. I think a significant amount of plastic surgery in the US is age-related, with a lot of pulling of skin. These girls are still young, so they still have the elasticity in their skin. They…

They do look very pretty in the "after" photos, but more real in the before photos. The difference is very striking. I'd rather know/be friends with the "before" girls.

They are striving to look *exactly* like one another. A nation of Stepford-perfect Korean-ness. In the future will it still be rude to say that all Koreans look alike, or will the women there respond with, "Thanks!"