A flying car is whataboutism at it’s finest, stay on topic. ICE is about as developed as it’s ever going to get. Electric drivetrains are more powerful, easier to maintain, have less wear and tear over time, and extend the lifespan of everything from brake pads to tires. Yeah, the batteries are still on their way,…

E85 still has gasoline in it, and straight alcohol gets you similar range to an electric power train without any of the advantages. Solid State is expected in the next 2-5 years, and again, you need to get out more if you seriously think that battery tech is sitting still. The upcoming Samsung S11+ fits 20% more power…

Also true, but consider that the current 3ish 0-60 shared by most modern bikes is achieved with a good chunk of their weight above the wheel centerline, whereas most electric bikes have much better mass centralization. Regardless, we’ll likely not see much better than 2.6 seconds for a production bike, the full fat…

A 2016 Zero SR does 0-60 in 3.3 seconds. With 67 HP. Incompetence or cheating, take your pick. Either way, these guys suck at testing. 

The 67 HP Zero SR does 0-60 in 3.3, these dumbasses didn't RTFM.

Ok then, where’s the biofuel analog for gasoline? There isn’t, only for diesel. Until they do figure it out, electric is the best option, and solid state batteries are on the horizon with double the power density. If you think li ion is all there is, then you don’t get out enough.

3.3 is the ‘16 SR, with 67 whole HP. With 110 HP, she might be sub 3 seconds, particularly with 140 ft/lbs.

By myself with a tire machine and computer balancer, about an hour. Doing my motorcycles tires manually takes about the same. I’ve manually changed a car tire in the field with just a set of irons the one time, and that was about an hour too. Suffice to say, t'was not fun.

That much is obvious. What I was referring to is that even under ideal circumstances, swapping and balancing 4 tires takes 1 man an hour, and rebuilding what is for all intents and purposes a race engine will take that same guy at least 8 hours, not counting removing and reinstalling the engine and all the little…

Damn it, but thank you for the correction. I think my point still stands, for a 4k lb car with a 200 lb pilot to accelerate the same as a 450 lb bike with the same pilot making 110 HP, it would need 712 HP. And since the car’s driver has nowhere near the influence on his car as the rider does on his motorcycle, I’ll…

Sure it is.

You’ve never had to dig into a German engine if you think 8 hours is enough time to get anything in that garage up and running.

No HP numbers quoted, used generally available information of 270 HP, and it’s still an inferior power to weight ratio at 450 Hp. The power to weight numbers could be the same, and the bike would still win, as close to six times the mass is going to need closer to 12 times the energy to get moving at a similar clip.…

Hell, you could probably outrun the Tesla on this little guy.

That was an insult to Lenny.

The MAGA fuckwits aren’t much better, crowing that nothing has happened. First thing about impeachment, the orangutan can no longer receive a federal pardon. And that cameo was corny when I was 7 years old, moreso nowadays that we've seen the depths of his incompetence.

The dumbass either didn’t switch it into sport mode or wasn't enthusiastic with the throttle. It’s hard to tell if they’re incompetent or cheating, but either way, epic fail.

Isn't that what I said? 🙄

It’s physics, the car nominally weighs 5.9 times what the motorcycle does, and only outputs 2.7 times the HP if you take the highest spec Model 3. Having ridden a motorcycle with 1.7 times the HP and .6 times the torque of the SR/F, there is no danger of coming off the bike, you’re worried about looping it. Hell, my…

Having never lost a drag race to a car on a CBR1000RR, GSX-R 750, SV650, 525EXC, or CRF450X, I find it doubtful that an electric car would out-accelerate an electric motorcycle. One weighs 3.6-4k lbs, the other is sub 610 lbs with the pilot, yet the car can only muster a bit more than double the horsepower compared to…