Modern designers are allergic to clean, simple lines.  Everything has to have some weird kink in it.

The exterior is awful. 

I was surprised to learn this thing still rides on a variant of the good ol’ GM U platform which goes all the way back to the Aztek and even further back to the dustbuster vans. 

You would have bought that ?

“Charlie Chesbrough, senior economist for Cox Automotive, told AutoNews that he has a working hypothesis. Mainly, it costs more to buy a car these days, and it’s tough to borrow the money to do it. It’s pretty tough to sell to a market that doesn’t have the means to buy.”

surprising how many dont like it. I do. quite a bit actually. 

That was my thought...had I seen that and had no context I would assume drugs as well and probably wouldn’t be tapping on the the window either.

I’m not typically a police apologist but I think that the guy was probably right to call the cops on you, and the cops were right to check you out. Someone pulling up to fill their tank and instantly falling asleep is pretty unusual (for anyone but yourself) behavior. Tired drivers are one thing, impaired drivers are…

Hah—oh, David.

Also rebaged with a bow-tie as the PPV.

By that measure, Pontiac wasn’t Pontiac when it died. It was all rebadged Chevys anyway. If those can be Pontiacs, then the G8 can be as well. At least they went out with a bang.

I’ll stick with mine but sure, the fifth gen is okay. The problem is, these are not cheap—you can’t touch one for under $30k, and they’re definitely not worth the $70k that some dealers are asking for black wheels and blue paint.

Yes. Because this is back to basics ruggedness.

Nissan reminds me of nothing so much as Cerberus-era Mopar. Perhaps not as shoddily assembled, but in the sense that it has no soul, no direction, and no new products in the pipeline, one can’t help but wonder what’s going to happen to it going forward. Is it going to just sort of melt into the background of some sort…

If no one is buying your car, it isn’t desirable and at the right price.

Exactly my thoughts. When I’m trying to unload stuff I’ve already found it much easier to sell on Facebook.

This will do nothing but drive more people to Facebook Marketplace, which is already well on its way to becoming the new Craigslist

“futuristic look” will likely equal squinty headlights and +$10K in asking price.

“As usual, The US division of a European-American company will get the short straw. Always.”

Aka the “I’m brave enough to order a first-year FCA product” badging.