When I can buy a small, quiet, comfortable car for the same price as a large, quiet, comfortable car, I will do so.
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Do you really not see how you’ve gone from discussing the issue to making this all about your feelings?
Partially that’s because other industries have outsourced almost all production, and also decreased quality in areas consumers don’t care about. It’s not actually a great solution.
That’s exactly the problem the auto industry is facing. They’ve made products that are more reliable, and also increases the cost of entry. So older products hang around for longer. From a consumer’s perspective, they mostly don’t need a new car, and new cars are expensive anyway, so why bother?
This is so important! We aren’t robots. If we pretend that we can be perfect each month, we’ll never stay on budget.
I wasn’t sure if you were actively trying to tone police or not. That’s why I linked the articles, so you’d see what you were starting to do and why people might object. If you had been clearly tone policing I wouldn’t have bothered. People who are more interested in whether their feelings are hurt than in what we’re…
Because that perception plays into how your work is assigned and evaluated.
The problem is that a lot of women are taught from a young age to defer to others, to be quite, that getting along with people is more important than their wishes, etc. Boys are taught different expectations.
This thread was started by someone doing exactly what that quote refers to.
The problem isn’t that women are innately bad at negotiating. The problem is that when women try to negotiate, often as not they get punished. This starts from a pretty young age - watch what happen when young girls have a disagreement and whether the girls are actually allowed to keep disagreeing instead of being…
There’s a lot of built up frustration around this and similar issues because - as you can see just from the comments here! - a lot of people, men and women, will use any tactic to dismiss valid concerns.
Here’s the thing: there’s a long history of people using ‘why don’t women just negotiate more’ as a way to blame women. Including some in the comments of this very post. It’s incredibly common.
Women who try to negotiate are less likely to get the raise than men who negotiate, and are more like to be perceived badly for having tried to negotiate. Women who negotiate will get perceived as selfish/bitchy/pushy, where men who negotiate get perceived as assertive/leadership material.
Oh yeah, a description of a really annoying behavior is totally the same as cussing someone out. Yup. That makes perfect sense.
Well, I was earning less! Then I moved to a majority-woman company where I am finally being paid something close to what my male peers earn.
But I always cared about voting (earliest childhood memories include family trips to the poll booth) and never wanted to be a movie star! 7th poll is extremely flawed.
My sibling’s Scout troop leader was a former gang member and felon who cleaned up their act after doing their time.