Completely agree. Sums up my point precisely.

IIRC, alliterator is a she. Just FYI.

I Didn’t get to go to a theater, watched it at home with snacks and drinks, but I get how probably with children it would definitely be on the longer (and less entertaining for them) end of a movie run.

“I am not criticizing decisions the movie made — just the fact that a movie with this premise was made at all, without actually following through with the premise.”

“I’m taking about the premise and why Disney chose that premise to make into a movie. You are being disingenuous if you really think the executives who thought up this movie said, “Well, it’s not the actual about Cruella, but an AU Cruella and all this is actually an Alternate Universe to 1,001 Dalmatians where she,…

“Hell, it ends with Pongo and Perdita being delivered to Roger and Anita, thus setting up the beginning of 1,001 Dalmatians.”

“There are things you can do in a comic book you cannot do in a movie and, often, that includes “What Ifs?” and “Elseworlds.””

Yes, I agree lots of camp characters are not queer themselves, but still are very much part of queer culture. And I added to my comment above, but basically I think so many squares are pushing back to the film already because it is queer and campy (whether they know that or not) and that it’s veiled as some concern…

“There’s a difference between making a comic and making a blockbuster movie. It’s called “millions and millions of dollars.””

So an alternate universe Star wars movie? Like Dark Horse Comics did with the Infitinies series? Sure, why not? “What if Anakin Skywalker never fell” sounds like a pretty solid premise for a story. So solid, in fact, that I’m surprised it doesn’t already exist in some form.

I agree that Disney is definitely capitalizing on queer culture and tip toeing around the actual queerness. But I think Cruella and Bankhead is so tied up in a certain element of queer/camp culture that it was impossible for my baby queer self to not feel some sort of joy. My 8 year old self knew Cruella meant…

she is literally based on a queer icon, tallulah bankhead. and the whole movie is based out of queer mommie dearest /old hollywood tropes that have become part of our queer camp canon. They even pay homage to Bankhead in the film.

I agree with both of you. The movie was a bit too long, but overall I really liked it. I really dislike how close-minded people are about it. I would think io9ers would be more than familiar with the concept of alternate universe and what if tales.

“Sorry this lets learn how the villian was badly treated and forced into a life of evil trope isn’t for me .”

Yeah, and what’s the problem with that? Comics do it all the time. They call it a “What If” or an “Elseworld”. This is a Disney Elseworld. 

Those of us who listen to experts carefully, then follow their advice when convincing, are the ones doing okay in this fight.

If you watch the film and think it’s “boring” then you really have some issues around excitement levels. Also, she’s 100% over the top and it speaks to that so *shrug*. Mileage may vary.

because Cruella from both embodies a lot of queerness, it’s about the spirit of camp while removing the dog skinning. The original was only queer when Cruella was on screen, this gives us a whole movie of that energy.

He’s good in the right roles, but the right roles for him are “creepy guy” and “serial killer who is also a creepy guy”. He’s got anti-leading-man looks.

It’s campy, but I was impressed by the fun story and solid production value of John Carter. I avoided it for years thinking it looked like trash, but was glad I saw it. Guess that feeling doesn’t apply to everyone.