You're not a criminal? Is piracy legal in your country?

For me it was never about privacy concerns. It was about being charged an extra $100 for tech I'm not interested in even slightly. So really, this announcement does nothing for me.

who cares about things such as data or evidence, obviously that stuff requires people to think critically for themselves. let's take the moral high ground and just go with the easiest explanation that "makes sense"

It's worse than moral relativity. It's moral inversion. Pirates tend to take what is essentially IP theft and portray it as part of some righteous battle against corporate greed...never mind that the major motivating factor is their own greed. If you want to do immoral things, then that's your decision, but don't…

You did say "objectivist" earlier in the conversation.

Nope. I'm only vaguely aware of who he is.

There are millions of people who think that genocide is justified in the right context. Numbers don't equal credibility.

In this digital age there is no reason not to have a demo out there and available for public use.

In this digital age there is no reason not to have a demo out there and available for public use.

Nope, and neither do you. That's why I said "objectively." It's not up to you or me. Taking things (particularly luxury items like toys that are not necessities) that don't belong to you without paying is objectively wrong.

Ayn Rand? Man, don't get involved in a discussion if you don't know what you're talking about. You don't have to be into Objectivism to know that taking things that aren't yours without paying for them is wrong.

May I ask what it is about piracy that bugs you the most?

Fine. You don't get to do it and be justified in doing so. It's objectively wrong.

Again, I think this is okay because once the disc is in your hands it's yours. You're free to give it away to whoever you want. Copying the game is not okay, because then you're actually getting free functionality at the expense of the publisher (the ability to play the game on two machines at once, despite only…

And if you don't then you're using their property without their permission. That's no less immoral.

Sharing a Steam account I don't have any issue with because it's no different that lending a retail game or sharing a game in your own home. There's no extra copy, and no additional functionality (i.e. two people playing at once). There's functionally no difference from the status quo that the industry and culture…

Last one, just for you. I want to leave you with this final thought:

My ideal is of no consequence. What's being discussed here is the morality of piracy. Regardless of whether or not the retail market is "ideal" piracy is not justified. We're never going to have an "ideal" market, because all markets exist on the backs of competing interests. All we can aspire to is fairness, and…

So you've resorted to the internet equivalent of "I'm not touching you."

I suppose that works both ways. I'll take it as a compliment.