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It also plays into something drilled into too many plain, overweight folk that you must compensate your looks by wowing them with personality ie wit and charm. Reading that line on the obit made me think of this and wonder if that was drilled into her. This drilling comes.from environment, home, movies, books and tv.

That obituary was a disgrace, and got the thrashing it deserved on Twitter and in other media (The Australian is a Murdoch paper) yesterday. My fav response with this article imagining the obits of male writers if they were subjected to the same treatment as women.

That information is in the first link.

Good news- no arson threats at all in 2014!

Bad news- because they went straight to the arson part

Good news- only slightly more bomb threats in 2014 vs 2010

Bad news- way more bombing. Lots more.

It's like you went to their meeting!

I think their argument goes:

Nah, they are people who have no problem being associated with the worst people. They don't do anything bad, and they also don't care if the person sitting next to them does either.

You're thinking of UC Santa Barbara. Where the killer literally posted a video on YouTube about how he was going to kill women because they were women.

It's obviously tough going out, for a guy or a girl.

How does being honest increase the "very real chance of actual physical danger?"

What is the harm in being honest?

You realized you just asked a roomful of girls a question, every single one of them gave you an honest answer, and you're still refusing to accept it or take no for an answer or go the fuck away?

Why is anyone supposed to give a shit about your precious tender feelings, exactly?

what is the harm in accepting the lie and moving on? no one loses. you aren't hurt and she doesn't run the risk that you'll go all Norman bates.

Plenty likely, and then there is the parking lot outside. You are hearing from many, many women in this thread that they have been threatened, yelled at, grabbed, hit, had drinks thrown at them—yet you don't believe it. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. And the fact that you can't accept that makes you EVEN MORE THE PROBLEM.

"It's not easy for us."

why do you keep ignoring the fact that there is a certain level of fear associated with saying no to men because woman have been killed/disfigured for doing so?

Right because all women want exactly the same things from a man.

It's a small subset that is capable of just murdering you if you hurt their feelings. A lot of women have learned to use excuses the hard way —by having a simple straightforward 'No thanks' need to be repeated over and over, by having the situation turn ugly and feel threatening, and so on. Pretty much every woman old

That's great. You get a thousand medals for being able to take criticism, but 999 out of 1000 men are not like you and women risk being verbally and physically assaulted for their "honesty," ok? And even though you seem to think it's their duty to do, there is no law that women have to risk rape and injury so you can

When you decide to approach someone you don't know, they don't owe you anything, including a self-improvement course.