You don’t want Delores to get a wallet and like it a lot?

Section 16 has got to be where they were doing fidelity tests on James Delos.

How can this be?!

When they spoofed anime in one sequence it was great, and to this day I will still occasionally shout, “Who is driving? Oh oh, bear is driving, how can this be?!”

My favorite Sega commercials were the ones with the executive and the children. The one with the demon children was specifically awesome.

“No, worse actually: it was presented as a necessary thing.”

Well yeah. That’s how the narrative was constructed. The show was a ticking clock scenario. As the protagonist, Bauer is the only one that sees this, save some others; his superiors were always telling him what he was doing was not only illegal, but morally…

Results don’t always equal the right ones.

And again, we were shown that there was a cost to those “results”. American might have won at the end of every season, but Jack lost.

I also think that the real question to ask is did ‘24' make torture more palatable for Americans, or have we always been okay with that sort…

That’s not what he thought. From the link you just posted(twice): “Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles. ... He saved hundreds of thousands of lives,” Judge Scalia said. Then, recalling Season 2, where the agent’s rough interrogation tactics saved California from a terrorist nuke, the Supreme Court judge etched a line in the…

It’s also a television show. Everyone knows that torture is a shit way to get information, because they’ll tell you whatever they think you want to hear to get it to stop. We’ve seen time and time again forging a personal connection to someone and just talking to them over a period of time is a much, much better way…

It’s my go-to show when I’m folding laundry because I’ve seen it so many times that I can just sort of zone out to it.

The problem with the format of the show, or I guess the feature, is that you didn’t get to see Jack deal with all the things he’d done over the course of the day because he had to compartmentalize and…

The worst pain I’ve ever been in was when I had appendicitis. I’ve been tased, choked, and burned. Didn’t come close.

My argument is that torture wasn’t presented as a magical crutch in order to solve a mystery. 

Inflicting "excruciating" pain, is torture. 

If that was the OP said, I’d agree that it wouldn’t necessarily be such a bad thing if the show backed down on the presentation of torture, especially since they seemed to do that with ‘Homeland’, which is basically a real-world version of ‘24'. But that’s not what they said.

Nah, I’ll take the 24 wiki at their word. But they did one PSA telling Americans not to go out and assault Muslims. One. One is not plural, and the other two they did were based on ecological concerns.

I’ve never seen any of these, can’t find any evidence that they even exist. The only 24-related PSA I can find on YouTube is about global warming.

But we live in a dumb society. Our car commericals have dude’s driving into Godzilla’s mouth, but we have a caption that says, “Do not try this at home.”

Scalia was a fucking psychopath with a tenuous grip on the law anyway, at least unless it furthered his and the people that put him there’s goals. That legal argument he presented was also flawed as fuck because it relied on a fictional characters behavior in entirely fictional situations.

Wrong. The first definition listed on dictionary(dot)com is:

Interrogation =/= torture. You also seemed to miss the point that Bauer isn’t a hero, at best he’s the anti-hero that uses questionable, if not down-right illegal methods during the course of the show. And it’s shown that he loses everything because of his actions. I don’t think that torture is portrayed in any sort…

More often than not, the torture in 24 wasn’t presented as a positive thing. And taking those scenes out of context with YouTube clips is a piss poor way to prove a point.

You and I must have watched a very different ‘24'...