Errr... Joel was bloodthirsty and did not even have any conversations with people he killed. When he thinks it’s necessary, he’ll kill. End of story. Why is it that the fireflies should be diplomatic about killing Ellie and yet he was not even diplomatic when he kills and abandons everyone?

Because the writers have no logic and wanted to keep the story entertaining.

You’re not going to kill another person just so they could probably find a political weapon? Really? Joel massacred a lot of people without second guessing and you care so much that they’re going to kill a little girl who might be able to help? What makes you think that the Fireflies’ lives is much less important than…

I stopped reading when you said the massacre was justified because they refused to have a conversation. What does the men have to do with anything? They’re not the ones making the decisions. They also went through hell for their beliefs. Didn’t the surgeon and the men face a lot of stuff too? Is Joel’s backstory and…