I laugh at the general description of the Z51 package. Z51 has been and always will be the same as the M-Sport package on a BMW. Better handling, some different trim pieces, and better brakes. The Grand Sport was/will be the track package.

True, but if they used Earl’s original inspiration (Jaguar XK120) it would be an F-Type competitor. So, basically the C7.

With the passengers I usually have, you’d never forget they’re there because they’ll be fucking with the buttons constantly just to drive you nuts.

Looks are whatever. They undermined by not dropping the twin-turbo v8 in it. This is a car that would benefit from the long and flat torque curves of a modern turbo engine. I feel like the LS LT is one of the cost cutting measures to get the price down.

The removable roof is deal breaker for me. I have an absolute hatred for all targa and t-top vehicles.

Most AWD/4WD vehicles no longer have the option to put the transfer case in neutral.

This is the correct answer. Flat towing is hell on driveline components.

No More Tears and Ozzmosis are my two favorite Ozzy albums. I think the experimentation on those two helped a bunch. As far as Zakk goes, I think he’s one of those guys who needs to be part of a band to be at his best. When he’s the band leader, he doesn’t do that well.

For me it’s not the climbing in that is the issue. It’s the getting up and into standing position from that chair height while also maneuvering around the steering wheel that causes issues. Even when I turn 90 degrees I still have to use the wheel to get up. SUV height makes it to where I can slide out of the car…

The one by me has it at every pump. It usually runs about 50 cents a gallon cheaper than the normal gas stations.

To each their own.

Those proportions are just all wrong.

And that is it’s only redeeming feature.

The biggest thing it needs is to be a single cab with a longbed if you want to go full retro.

No, he’s not. He would agree with the statement if he lived here.

I pay less for diesel at Costco, than most pay for 87 Octane. When you drive 40K miles a year, it makes the the membership fee worthwhile.

Compared to the original Rav4, it’s huge. It’s about the size of the first generation Highlander now. I would never call it huge.

That’s for the adventure trim. Google says starting is $25,600.

In Torch’s defense, Costco is kind of awesome in it’s own way. Plus, cheap fuel.

Have you considered that maybe your tastes aren’t the same as the majority of the population?