We get called elitist even when we vote against our own interests. We get called elitist no matter what we do. Do you really believe there is a world in which Liberals and persons with educations will not be called elitist? This is a thing that will not happen. All we ‘elitists’ have managed by trying to appease…

I don’t know? How many are you willing to kill, daily, to maintain the status quo?  

I will have to do that. Thanks for the tips! I just discovered Barceloneta last time (I don’t have much of a beach bod) and have slowly been exploring the city.

I’ve been over this before with about 10 other people. Elected is not re-elected. No one kicks out a sitting president during the start of wartime. To make the statement better ‘no republican has ascended to the white house with the popular vote since 1988'. Is that better?

Idiot? My word, a guy being tough on the internet! What will this world come to next?

You assume that the Texas gov’t and legislature won’t continue gerrymandering and creating restrictive voter ID laws to keep them in power.

Oh and I’ve been to Barcelona many, many times, but never Madrid. Is it worth a trip on its own?

I am aware of that. And he did glass-steagal and lowered capital gains and a whole host of other third Way secretly republican shit. Your point being?

As said elsewhere you, parts of Wisconsin and Illinois go to keep the NFC North intact. Detroit, maaaaaaaaaaybe.

A cogent and reasonable argument. Thanks for that. I feel that this will be an argument you will come over to as it continues to happen, or worse, Trump enacts voter laws based on the myth of the 3 million illegal voters and cuts a huge swathe of democratic voters from the rolls in purple states.

and full of blueberries.

But was grange democrat before and would be democrat again if the farms were paid more fairly, rather than competing with major agrifactories.

Elected and re-elected are not the same word.

Thanks to you as well.

Who cares what a fundamentalist thinks? We have spend far too long worrying about being seen as elitist and it didn’t change that one bit. You cannot negotiate with a fundamentalist Christian so the best you can do is let them suffer their own fate and stop caring what someone who despises you thinks of you.

It plain and simply is not. Go and look at a LIDAR map of Connecticut. Go ahead. I’ll wait. Tell me what you see in the Connecticut river valley alone. Then go look at the Pioneer Valley in Mass or the Hudson, Taconic, Naugatuck or anywhere in Vermont for that matter. Vermont has lost something akin to 80% of their…

I believe there are and support them. For instance both the ACLU and SPLC. I am from down there (we don’t call ourselves from ‘the south’ where I’m from).

We won’t. See my other statement about needing the NFC North intact.

I think term limits is a good idea but it’s garbage in garbage out if the electoral process is crooked. So term limits will not fix gerrymandering or oppressive voter ID laws designed not to stop the mythical fraud voter, but to disenfranchise the poor.

Man, I don’t know what to tell you. Have you ever been in the Hudson valley, or the Connecticut river valley for that matter? This is not wall-to-wall development. It’s mostly working farmland or reclaimed forest. Yes the long island and Westchester farms are mostly gone, but your view of an eastern seaboard that is…