How Jeep could make the same basic vehicle for so many decades and still have it be so unreliable blows my mind.

A Chevy Sonic wasn’t worth $7,300 new on the showroom floor.  CP

Especially when you cannot avoid it when buying a car. It should have been included in every “total” price everywhere.

There’s probably some history behind it. Some old practice or law. Something that hasn’t been relevant in many decades but shapes today’s practices.

As to the difference in transportation fees it’s like ordering anything online. The sellers divide up the real price between the price and the shipping. Hence illinois’…

gotta love the “document processing fee” as well... $800 for someone to notarize a few papers and move you on your way...

Thank you, yes, this exactly. Dumb to have it as a separate line item when it’s a fixed value that is included in all of the cars they sell. Just add it to the base MSRP and then they don’t even have to be sneaky about it.

Why is the delivery charge even a thing for cars? Is there any other good that you can buy at a store, in stock, and have to pay a separate delivery charge?

The value is going to keep going up... you can’t lose!  Wait a minute... 

This. When I buy a gallon of milk, it’s not priced at $2.75 with another $0.65 added back in for “transportation costs.” I get it that it costs money to get the thing to the dealer from the factory. Everything must be transported, but only vehicles break that down as a separate charge. Unless I can pick it up straight…

how about getting rid of the Destination Charge altogether.

I've never understood these freight fees to begin with. Seems so weird to pass along to the consumer. It's one thing if I buy direct and the vehicle is delivered to me or a drop-off point, like online shipping. But if I go to a dealer, which they require me to do, the items has already been shipped. I don't pay Best…

Ive bought a lot of new cars and I dont think Ive ever really used the manufacturer websites. Ill hit carsdirect, truecar, etc. They make more sense of the MSRP (actually breaking out the destination charge, etc) vs invoice.

Geez... that pricing.

21k is a lot for a base model

You could have a Sport model Civic Hatchback for the same price. And that comes in a manual. 

That too. Everything's squinty right now.

Ignoring the collective ranting of bloggers and vocal internet commenters, this design is almost objectively ugly. It’s not like an Audi where one could say, well, it’s got an obnoxious grille, but at least it’s decently handsome. This 7 Series is just plain bad looking. BMW could have easily made something better 

I think making the headlights bigger would help. Headlight-to-grill ratio on the E38 was sublime:

Yep, these will definitely need some work from sitting for so long.

Everybody not named Alabama or Oklahoma would have been blown out by Clemson. Notre Dame kept the high powered Clemson offense to 10 points in the second half. Front was just too tough for Notre dame. The better team won but Notre Dame was not a fraud this year. This is a garbage article by a no talent troll hack. UCF…