But how can we reduce the prison population is we presume that people accused of violent crimes are necessarily guilty, as you’re doing here? If even those who have been legally acquitted are presumed to be guilty, then that inevitably and necessarily contributes to the culture that made mass incarceration possible.

But you’re assuming that he is in fact guilty of those bad actions despite doing everything that a person can do to demonstrate otherwise. That’s not progressive; it’s law and order conservatism. This is the very tension I’m talking about: you can’t claim to believe in the project to reform our criminal justice system…

But what if he sincerely is not guilty? Is that idea completely precluded? How can you claim to be in favor of criminal justice reform if a not guilty verdict does nothing to challenge your assumption that someone is guilty? There’s no way to reconcile the blanket presumption of guilt with commitment to restorative…

Restorative and rehabilitative justice requires the capacity for forgiveness. What you’re describing is not forgiveness.

I don’t understand how people who claim to want to be part of a movement for criminal justice reform can insist that even someone who was acquitted has to carry around the burden of guilt for the rest of his life so that the accusation defines him forever. Restorative justice - the idea that we want to rehabilitate…

Then say that. If people’s concern is the behavior they expect of Trump supporters, then fine - make that case. But this story has been signal boosted again and again by acting as though “election observers” is some new, Orwellian term that Trump’s invented, instead of a perfectly banal part of the conventional…

Every campaign has election observers. All of them. This is not at all new.

Seriously, does no one do any research? Every campaign has election observers. Trump sucks enough to not have to make things up.

lot of salty jingos in this thread

Ah, beaten to the punch!

They were already that good.

I thought so! He is.

Does Kirk Hamilton play that sexy horn intro to the SplitScreen podcast?

This game is starting to feel like the last season of Lost.

No, Pastawhatever. Like, the idea that he needs to make Phelps’s win into a better narrative by having him play 11th dimensional chess to get into the lane next to le Clos.

Phelps is incredible but I still think it’s weird how everyone jumps onto the number of medals, when swimmers have by far the most opportunity to win them. I’d still place Usain Bolt ahead of Phelps - his dominance comes ahead of Phelps’s quantity.

Yes. But then, none of those things in your second paragraph are remotely like this case, right?

As I’ve said many times, cultural appropriation narratives are insulting to people from other cultures, because they presume that only white Westerners have agency. It’s like when people claim that white people doing yoga or eating Chinese food represents cultural appropriation - in both cases, it was in fact members…

My point is he would never try to implement that weird strategy in the Olympics.