Does this team want to do body work for 3 years, or have some fun making an old car mechanically safe and reliable and able to cruise on the highway? Or both? American iron from the 60's and 70's, especially any pickup truck and some of the slower, more family-oriented economy cars like the 60's Ford Falcon/Mercury…

Now if I was off-roading with a vehicle, body damage wouldn’t be as big a concern as long as I knew the structure under the body was safe and straight.

Of all the things you could put the Hellcat in, the 300 would probably have the least demand and command the smallest margins.  That’s probably why they’re all allocated elsewhere.

Don’t look for a specific vehicle. Cast a wide net. Focus on avoiding rust (you may have to look outside of New York).

I was gonna suggest a Fox body. There’s pretty decent aftermarket support, and Maximum Motorsports makes an IRS swap kit based on the ‘02 Cobra. 

True for unibody vehicles, not so much for body on frame. Especially if youre looking for a project vehicle like a jeep/bronco/truck to turn into a good driver rust can be a bonus. Get the vehicle cheaper and dont have to worry about it getting dinged up.

My favorite thing about the Dark Horse is the fact that it has zero retro nostalgia nonsense. It’s new. No rehashing old model names, no Shelby, no Mach 1, no Bullitt, no Boss 302. 

1. Seeing a whole lot of Camaro in the rear quarter panel.

It seems foolish to skip the hybrid option if you’re in the market for one of these. $1300 extra to get 10 extra mpg is nothing, especially considering that Hondas go for a long time and their owners tend to keep them for quite a while.

The price would have been meh stock but not so much like this.

THAT picture was the tipping point??

I completely agree. I was just harping on the mods (how they just devalue the car), but hadn’t even considered if the owner had just dropped that money into keeping this in top shape. It could have been a gem.

“personalized and complicated”. That is the nicest way to say “dog crap” I’ve ever heard... well done.

Murphy’s Law: if anything can go wrong, it will, and at the worst possible time.

The sad irony is, had they put that much money and effort into keeping it 100% stock? It would easily command the price they’re asking. But now? It’s just someone else’s show car where none of the blues are the same shade and the wheels are unfortunate.

If I were to get a car to tinker on - it wouldn’t be a complex one like this. That’s it in a nutshell. 

I think the design has aged very well, but in clean (stock) form. I think they are still pretty cars (and look better than their Stealth stablemates).

A bone stock one would be at BMW levels of maintenance (with the added bonus of not being able to get parts), this is just so ghettoed out with mods, big, big ND.

The mods push this one into ND territory for me. The seller might get close to what they want if they find the right buyer, but they’ll have to be willing to let it sit on the market for quite a while. 

I used to want one of these as a kid but the design hasn’t aged well.  This is one person’s pet but it’s to personalized and complicated overall.  The price would have been meh stock but not so much like this.  ND