Yeah, I know fleet average economy and all that. Alphabet soup regulatory agencies that in this day in age force changes to vehicles that don’t actually make either the slightest bit of difference to the consumer, or in some cases abjectly make them worse in some way.

But from a consumer perspective all the 8spd does…

”Wranglers-at least to me-seemcompact in size.”

Ok, I’ll be the one to say it. “So What?”.. “Who cares?”

Is this new extra 2mpg going to actually sway anybody who was on the fence on buying a Wrangler, or make anybody trade in their 2017 for a 2018. Pretty sure with 99% confidence the answer is no.

Isn’t that just an EV that plugs into the current electrical grid?

I went to the van to get something and Rayne thought we were going for a ride.

OK.. star for you I just posted up the same thing before I saw this post. I think it’s the same car too.

That Gremlin looks suspiciously like the one that blew up in the new Tom Cruise movie “American Made”?

Have an ‘01 EX Sedan sitting in the driveway and it’s terrible. Even with a 5spd manual, the car is awful. Reliable, but awful.

Kind of the same.. I started off my teens being a Mustang guy because Dodges were a bit hard to come by. I had a ‘70 V8 coupe, ‘71 Mach 1, and a 72 V8 Grande. Being a MoPar guy at heart, I eventually ended up with a ‘70 Dart Swinger 340, especially after going to a dozen car shows and running into row upon row of…

Thanks, being born in ‘78, my family has a history of interesting cars. When I was born, I came home from the hospital in a ‘65 Sport Fury when the ‘72 Dodge Charger broke down on the way to the hospital. Other “interesting” cars in the my parents driveway during my “formative” years...
‘68 Roadrunner, ‘78 Jeep J-10…

I’m with you... When I bought my ‘12 Abarth I had 2 to choose from. The Nero black one that I bought and a Rosso red one that I really wanted. Problem was the red one had a sunroof and when my 5'9" self sat in it, my hair was scraping the headliner with the seat lowered all the way down.

Plus, I’ve had a grand total of…

Two distinct different things... first car I drove. My mother’s Banana yellow ‘73 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, looked just like this one. (Don’t feel like scanning in a photo from the album).

Volkswagen has been hemorrhaging their loyal fan base steadily over the last 10-15 years. It feels like Volkswagen is scared to death that they are going to lose the last of that repeat buyer base by moving to electric. So in order to try to hedge their bets against that, they are bringing back “nostalgia” models like…

Huh?

Pffft.... two tone is weak sauce.

Yes sir.

Nice Wagon you have there good sir!

I don’t know... sometimes it’s hard to find my cars in that parking lot...

Winter beater status achieved....

Probably why they are stupid money now for an over 25 year old used cute ute. I can’t believe the asking prices I’ve been seeing.