Pentagon Federal is love.

By old B5 S4 cost more to maintain. Really. 360's are truly bargain Ferrari's.

Torque-converter, according to the dealer, is 35 hours labor.

Tree hugging, fascist, pacifist, non-gearhead, granola's don't deserve this kind of money.

Doug,

Ugly? Like a Pontiac Aztec?

Not quite sure I understand the title? Who gives a f##k, it's a Toyota. Translation: It won't depreciate 40% before your first oil change.