Again, this is just so arbitrary who we judge, for what, without any thought of the perspective of the time, and this could be extended to so many public historical figures that we end up with only Mother Theresa monuments.

Again, that’s just an invalid statement, IMHO. Take Beauregard for example....yes, he fought for the Confederacy, but prior to that he was a local hero in New Orleans who also fought with valor in the Mexican American war. He’s a far more complex individual than “having no redeeming qualities whatsoever”, and that’s…

I think it comes down to “Is it glorification” or is it a constant reminder of something that was viewed acceptable at the time, and through the wisdom that comes from time, experience, and refinement, we now recognize it for what it was.

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Great point, if we were talking about Confederate flags, but we’re not. We’re talking about complicated human beings, not robots who went around saying “Viva la slavery” ad nauseum. Many of these individuals also fought for the United States, in the Mexican American war—-there’s history there, valuable history, and…

Couldn’t agree more, and it truly saddens me. If someone holds opposing views, it seems impossible in the current climate to acknowledge that they’re still a good person, with good intentions, but they just see things through a different lens and might actually have a legitimate point once in a while. C’est la…

Again, may God help us 50 or 100 years from now when future generations look at things that go on in society today (many of which we may be ok with) and find them unconscionable. I hope that they don’t make blanket judgments about us and I hope they don’t rip down any memorials to us, while letting those negative…

Hey, Andrew Jackson initiated the Trail of Tears....he has a huge monument, also in New Orleans. Should we add it to the list?

Thanks for the thoughtful response. To your point, yes, of all the monuments being discussed here, the Liberty monument is the one that troubles me the most, and in recognizing that there are gray areas to this discussion, it’s the one that I would have the least reservations about it coming down, for multiple reasons.

LOL....didn’t realize this was a popularity contest, but whatever makes you feel good.

Must be nice to be able to split hairs that finely to make things fit your world view.

shhhh, you’re going to ruin long-standing preconceived notions.

Thank you.......I think you’re one of the few that got my point and doesn’t want to automatically label me a confederate apologist. Times change, social mores and accepted norms change. Slavery isn’t even close to the only thing that once was an accepted norm and is now seen as a horrible institution. As you rightly…

It’s always well meaning do-gooders who can’t have a freaking logical discussion about history without making it personal.

True, which is why I fully admit there are gray areas to this topic. I was all for the Confederate flag being removed from the State House grounds in SC because I’m fully aware of why it was put there, and it’s not a recognized US national or state flag.

The US revolution never would have occurred without “traitors”. I’m seeing the same general talking points here—-slavery and traitor....do you guys have anything else???

It’s hard to argue with such an eloquent speaker as yourself, but I’ll try. a) I didn’t “lose” anything—I’m an American who certainly doesn’t sympathize with the majority causes of the Confederacy. b) That’s nonsense that they declared war—-they held multiple conventions to secede, (which wasn’t declared illegal until…